Tfl fine for being caught in bus lane

[DanH]

Friend was just served with a fine for 40/80 quid for being in a bus lane when he shouldn't have been. Date of the offense was 8/11/02, they issued the fine on the 23/11/02.

Does this fall into the failing to serve notice within two weeks job, or is that only for police NIPs? (This is a PCN - Penaly Charge Notification).

[DanH]

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www.hackney.gov.uk/council/cabinet%2009_09_02/Buslanea.doc

All PCNs are to be issued within 14 days of the contravention. The PCN ‘is deemed to be served’ when posted using first class post.
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Found this, so they missed it by one day right? Or do they get to factor out weekends etc?

[Jason F]

Ask Jack Straw. His Jag was caught in a bus lane during heavy traffic (rare in London so we can see why he took drastic action..)

[Whoozit]

I've had a couple of those. If he challenges it, it automatically doubles since he won't be within the 14 day discount period. Both of mine were a fair cop so I just paid up.

Warning to anyone using the A4 Knightsbridge eastbound: The bus lane camera 50 metres before Hyde Park Corner is LIVE. You have been warned, only numpties get caught twice

[tallchris99]

Well fair play to TFL, the enforcement of bus lane regulations has led to better throughput for buses and now TFL has started experiments to allow motorbikes to use certain bus lanes.

The A23 bus lane between the Oval and Streatham Common is open to Motorbikes now and it's made a big difference to safety and journey times.

Saying all that, I have collected lots of tickets for riding my bike in bus lanes, I did get off of one ticket by claiming "I swerved into the bus lane in order to avoid an accident, and was waiting for a safe oportunity to rejoin the main part of the road..."

[DanH]

The main thing I'm tring to ascertain is whether this notice was served out of time? The guys plainly guilty, but the number of people I know who've sent fines off when they are out of time pisses me off, so each victory is good!

[mondeoman]

if it says ISSUED on 23, then out of time - send it backl and go celebrate!! If it was recieved on 23, then yer mate is stuffed, cough up unless he has any other "mitigating" excuse he can dream up?!

[Annoyed]

As an aside, has anyone seen how angry cabbies get when you stray into a bus lane? I accidentally got stuck in the one in front of the Houses of Parliament - I thought the road-captain cab driver in front was going to take off with the amount of arm-waving going on. Smiled at him, waved back and watched him become purple and apoplectic with rage...

[DanH]

They dropped it.

[madcop]

Driving in a bus lane is not subject of NIP

[DanH]

I realise its not a NIP - it was a PCN. It is however subject to the same rules about being dropped if served out of time. Found some document on the internet talking about syncronising the law between PCNs and NIPs with regard to how they serve them etc.

[Nano2nd]

apologies if i should know this, but what is the maximum penalty for driving in the bus lane? - fine/points/prison ??

[DanH]

Fine and no points as I understand it. It was 40quid or 80 quid after x weeks.

Anyway I got a free pint out of getting him off He was guilty as sin though!