Dont you think there is too many traffic light now
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Please try to get the terminology right. They are "traffic jam lights" or, to use their full name "silly traffic jam lights" If all PHers use this term in general conversation with the right emphasis (such as giving directions " yes up to the second set of traffic jam lights and turn left" etc) Then eventually it will permeate the english language and we may get to see a reduction in the numbers. (After all who would want to respond to the question "what do you do for a living "I install traffic jam lights"). Though we have a long way to go as 70% of traffic jam lights need to be removed in order to create proper taffic flow. 
All part of the Govts plans I'm afraid. For some inane reason they want us all out of cars and 'swamping' public transport, ruining the economy with all the delays that cost us x billion p.a.
The policy may only change when they notice the old fuel tax (how much?!?!?!) is not such a nice little earner..
The policy may only change when they notice the old fuel tax (how much?!?!?!) is not such a nice little earner..
jmorgan said: I sneer at your 7 and raise you 13. We have a roundabout with 20 sets of lights around it.
I'm no expert on road planning, so i'm well qualified to comment. Why are there traffic lights at this roundabout? Surely lights or a roundabout would do the job at what looks like a fairly basic layout. Or is it more complicated in the flesh?
daved said:
jmorgan said: I sneer at your 7 and raise you 13. We have a roundabout with 20 sets of lights around it.
I'm no expert on road planning, so i'm well qualified to comment. Why are there traffic lights at this roundabout? Surely lights or a roundabout would do the job at what looks like a fairly basic layout. Or is it more complicated in the flesh?
Basic layout. Two roads cross, local council full of knee JERKS. Apparantly there have been a couple of bumps so they safteyfied it. Now it works more like a cross roads...er...wich it was in the past???
Just down the road from me they have just spent 4 months (with resulting traffic chaos) digging up a roundabout on the town bypass and changing it into a crossroads with traffic lights!
This is because of the difficulties pedestrians were having crossing the road.
However......
Half a mile away, on the same bypass, the same problem was solved by installing a pelican crossing near the roundabout......
This is because of the difficulties pedestrians were having crossing the road.
However......
Half a mile away, on the same bypass, the same problem was solved by installing a pelican crossing near the roundabout......
jmorgan said:I sneer at your 7 and raise you 13. We have a roundabout with 20 sets of lights around it.
I see your mere 20 and raise you 55:
www.tellmeabout.co.uk/tellmeabout/docklands/visiting/isleofdogs/trafficlights.htm
It's a nightmare - If you catch one light on a red then it is your destiny that every single light on your way out of town will stop you until you are way past Bitterne!
Not if I'm on my bike they won't. Straight through to the front, and 4 seconds later I'm er, could be doing 60. Thus getting to the green on time.
Isn't it funny how most "safety" features end up making it more dangerous?
Pinch points that everyone races to, so they don't need to stop. Traffic jam lights to slow people down, so you need warp-drive to get through, and Highway-robbers that make people slam on the brakes...
rgds.
My home town is Salisbury - i remember a while back you could drive into town, travel thru town, park up and go shopping. Then the council decided that Park and Ride was a good idea, so they built a Park and Ride thingy. Unfortunately Joe Public didnt agree that it was such a great idea, so consequently noone used it. Not to be put off, the Council just dug up the roads and narrowed all the streets to one lane, and then stuck traffic jam lights absolutely bloody everywhere. So now you cant drive into the City Centre without spending 30 minutes sat at pointless traffic jam lights.
Democracy? My arse.
Democracy? My arse.
DrSeuss said:
jmorgan said:I sneer at your 7 and raise you 13. We have a roundabout with 20 sets of lights around it.
I see your mere 20 and raise you 55:
www.tellmeabout.co.uk/tellmeabout/docklands/visiting/isleofdogs/trafficlights.htm
Erch, and I know the roundabout he did. Back on topic, how do you complain/object etc?
jmorgan said:
DrSeuss said:
jmorgan said:I sneer at your 7 and raise you 13. We have a roundabout with 20 sets of lights around it.
I see your mere 20 and raise you 55:
www.tellmeabout.co.uk/tellmeabout/docklands/visiting/isleofdogs/trafficlights.htm
Erch, and I know the roundabout he did. Back on topic, how do you complain/object etc?
You cant - they know better than you - and the Councillors brother works for the *traffic jam light/roundabout maker (* delete as applicable)
We have a problem in that most towns have a bunch of public sector people sitting in council offices. They didn't get sufficient GCSEs to get well paid private sector jobs but have been given the power and money to negatively influence other people's lives. They're called Traffic Planning or something like that.
They sit there twiddling their thumbs wondering how to spend this year's budget. It has to go on something of course and traffic lights are easy and consume lots of money which they would otherwise lose at the end of the financial year. So we end up with big roundabouts with traffic jam lights that create delays and pollution.
They sit there twiddling their thumbs wondering how to spend this year's budget. It has to go on something of course and traffic lights are easy and consume lots of money which they would otherwise lose at the end of the financial year. So we end up with big roundabouts with traffic jam lights that create delays and pollution.
And I thought it was just Swansea that had swapped all it's roundabouts for traffic 'jam' lights.
Anyone with even a mediocre degree of common sense, knows that the speediest way to move traffic through junctions, is roundabouts. So why do the traffic planners in local councils remove them and install traffic 'jam' lights? Or even more stupid, install lights on perfectly good roundabouts.
How frustating is it sitting at red lights with absolutely ***k all coming the other way, when you would be well on your way on a roundabout? Also, frustrating is the knowledge that to get to your destination 3miles away, you'll encounter another 18 sets of lights, 50% of which will be on red.
How much fuel is wasted with millions of cars sitting at millions of red lights every day?
Perhaps that is the 'master' plan - stop cars moving for 15% of the time to increase the amount of fuel they use and so collect more in fuel tax.
Traffic jam lights - the biggest cause of Road Rage !!
Anyone with even a mediocre degree of common sense, knows that the speediest way to move traffic through junctions, is roundabouts. So why do the traffic planners in local councils remove them and install traffic 'jam' lights? Or even more stupid, install lights on perfectly good roundabouts.
How frustating is it sitting at red lights with absolutely ***k all coming the other way, when you would be well on your way on a roundabout? Also, frustrating is the knowledge that to get to your destination 3miles away, you'll encounter another 18 sets of lights, 50% of which will be on red.
How much fuel is wasted with millions of cars sitting at millions of red lights every day?
Perhaps that is the 'master' plan - stop cars moving for 15% of the time to increase the amount of fuel they use and so collect more in fuel tax.
Traffic jam lights - the biggest cause of Road Rage !!
Army & Navy rounderabout in Chelmsford in Essex. Chelmsford Borough Council (CBC) spent £200k putting in traffic jam lights, A130 north, 2 lane road, into Chelmsford now allows about 20 cars per light change. This causes traffic jams even in light traffic at rush hour it was a disaster. CBC said they would monitor the situation, they now say the situation is acceptable and the lights remain. Its acceptable because all the traffic has moved to other far less suitable routes, including many residentail raods, into Chelmford. Dont you just love them.
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