New screen fitted, it leaked, electrics playing up
New screen fitted, it leaked, electrics playing up
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scrw.

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3,054 posts

212 months

Monday 2nd February
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Okay so new screen fitted a couple of days ago by national outfit via my insurance. Noticed over weekend while driving in the rain, a running water sound behind the dash (looked and no obvious damp at the time). I have called them out to do an inspection and refit asap (thursday). However went to move the car earlier and I have lost the exterior lights on the left side of the car (albeit front headlight doing disco flashing). A quick poke around the footwell and where the main loom junction is and the BCM is all rather damp. How is this one going to play out, will call them again first thing to report the latest find, and I suppose in my favour the thing passed its MOT with no issues 2 days prior to the screen being done so it was not an existing fault. Are they going to surprise me and all will be resolved or am I in for a world of pain?

Sebring440

3,042 posts

118 months

Monday 2nd February
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scrw. said:
Okay so new screen fitted a couple of days ago by national outfit via my insurance. Noticed over weekend while driving in the rain, a running water sound behind the dash (looked and no obvious damp at the time). I have called them out to do an inspection and refit asap (thursday). However went to move the car earlier and I have lost the exterior lights on the left side of the car (albeit front headlight doing disco flashing). A quick poke around the footwell and where the main loom junction is and the BCM is all rather damp. How is this one going to play out, will call them again first thing to report the latest find, and I suppose in my favour the thing passed its MOT with no issues 2 days prior to the screen being done so it was not an existing fault. Are they going to surprise me and all will be resolved or am I in for a world of pain?
scrw. said:
Are they going to surprise me and all will be resolved or am I in for a world of pain?
No one knows. Report back after Thursday.

GasEngineer

2,083 posts

84 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Insurance companies usually guarantee any work / repairs, so you should at least have that if the windscreen company won't help.

mobile chicane22

418 posts

210 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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I had a screen fitted on insurance that failed due to manufacturing defect.

no leaks the glass just randomly cracked in one corner about 12 hours after it was fitted

The window company were quick to rectify the issue and a "head inspector" was apparently sent to look at the original one that failed before it was removed to ensure it was fitted properly.


trickywoo

13,528 posts

252 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Modern screens are bonded on so it’s really unlikely the screen is leaking.


21TonyK

12,858 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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You'll recognise this scenario... (mine this morning!)



Cant help with the legalities but I think I've tracked mine down to a poorly fitted A-pillar gasket, clips and seal between the roof gutter and the top screen trim.

Edited by 21TonyK on Tuesday 3rd February 08:29

normalbloke

8,435 posts

241 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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trickywoo said:
Modern screens are bonded on so it s really unlikely the screen is leaking.
Oh, but they do. Especially when slapped in by some of the glass banshees
I m sure Glassman will be along shortly to give his usual balanced and useful input.

scrw.

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3,054 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Alarm bells went off when the first fitter said he wondered why so much glue was used on the glass he took out as he didn't use as much to fit the new one. Glass coming out was factory glass. Water is in the BCM, going to double check the sunroof drains but this all happened day after the screen was fitted so don't think it is unrelated.

Robertb

3,314 posts

260 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Might they have mis-fitted the windscreen scuttle trim, seals etc?

Bonded screens absolutely can leak. I had the great Glassman out last month for his expert attention to fix the one in my Merc which had failed in one section and was letting in water.

scrw.

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3,054 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Had a quick poke about, windscreen scuttle is not fitted correctly and not all going down the drain pipe on the drivers side, sunroof drain is okay and clean as I do rod then out with strimmer wire every service and there is a big loom plug and BCM, both of which are getting water dripping onto them right now. NSF headlight levelling motor is currently having a fit too, with ignition off that shouldn't be live. Lots of photos taken, off to call the screen peeps now.

21TonyK

12,858 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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scrw. said:
Alarm bells went off when the first fitter said he wondered why so much glue was used on the glass he took out as he didn't use as much to fit the new one. Glass coming out was factory glass. Water is in the BCM, going to double check the sunroof drains but this all happened day after the screen was fitted so don't think it is unrelated.
I can recommend precision.garage on the bay for a BCM reflash. Did mine and returned the day he got it for 30 odd quid.

Worked first time despite several months water ingress.

scrw.

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3,054 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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If it was my cockup I would do down the route of used BCM, I have the software to reflash them. However they can fix the bloody thing, really don't want a Jeep with dodgy electrics.

Red9zero

10,188 posts

79 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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normalbloke said:
trickywoo said:
Modern screens are bonded on so it s really unlikely the screen is leaking.
Oh, but they do. Especially when slapped in by some of the glass banshees
I m sure Glassman will be along shortly to give his usual balanced and useful input.
I had a leaking screen due to failed sealant on a Volvo C30. Original screen (car was only 2 years old) and a known fault apparently, although Volvo were unwilling to help. Replacement screen fitted and no more leak.

scrw.

Original Poster:

3,054 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Scuttle panel is about 25mm towards the centre of the car on the drivers side

Correctly fitted passenger side
20260203_140340 by Old_Chad, on Flickr

incorrectly fitted drivers side
20260203_140155 by Old_Chad, on Flickr

So the scuttle is not draining into the drain chute that goes into the inner wing.

Anything on the bottom of the a pillar, including major loom plug and BCM is soaked
20260203_140047 by Old_Chad, on Flickr

Waiting for a call back from the fitting companies customer care people.

scrw.

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3,054 posts

212 months

Thursday 5th February
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Well the fitter who was meant to come out today has pulled a sickie. Issues now include central locking playing up and the fuel cap randomly opening. Had silence from main office customer service, they seemed to have passed it to the local depot to resolve. They have suggested they come down to ours and drive the jeep to their depot for them to "dry the vehicle out & investigate the electrical issues" To be honest I am not at all happy with that, it is not legal to drive and I want the whole electrics going over by someone who knows what they are doing. Am I in my rights to request their liability insurance and pass the jeep over to my local dealer to sort out?

BertBert

20,824 posts

233 months

Thursday 5th February
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Well they are windscreen fitters not experts in the "mechanicals" of your car. So there's no way I would be letting them fix the problems that are not directly the fit of the screen. I'd be telling them that your dealer will be fixing the problems for them to pay for.

paul_c123

1,729 posts

15 months

Thursday 5th February
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scrw. said:
Well the fitter who was meant to come out today has pulled a sickie. Issues now include central locking playing up and the fuel cap randomly opening. Had silence from main office customer service, they seemed to have passed it to the local depot to resolve. They have suggested they come down to ours and drive the jeep to their depot for them to "dry the vehicle out & investigate the electrical issues" To be honest I am not at all happy with that, it is not legal to drive and I want the whole electrics going over by someone who knows what they are doing. Am I in my rights to request their liability insurance and pass the jeep over to my local dealer to sort out?
You can request them to put it right, but its up to them whether they do it themselves or involve their insurers. Also, you can't dictate who fixes it (but are entitled to it being completely fixed).

Since the screen was fitted due to your own insurance, it is them who you'd approach first, then they would pass it on to the relevant other company (which might not be the glass fitters now).

stemll

5,088 posts

222 months

Friday 6th February
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scrw. said:
If it was my cockup I would do down the route of used BCM, I have the software to reflash them. However they can fix the bloody thing, really don't want a Jeep with dodgy electrics.
Given my wife's experience with a Jeep Compass, isn't that all of them especially now a lot of them are rebodied FIATs? She really liked it but the number of times it just refused randomly to start got way beyond a joke. It is long gone and not missed.

scrw.

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3,054 posts

212 months

Friday 6th February
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Yep modern Jeeps are Stellantis kit, not as good as they used to be. Windscreen bod has pulled a sickie again today. Just chatting with my insurance people about raising a claim and getting them to sort the thing out. I do not want a window fitting company bodging it together and it start having electrical woes some point down the line.

GasEngineer

2,083 posts

84 months

Friday 6th February
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scrw. said:
Yep modern Jeeps are Stellantis kit, not as good as they used to be. Windscreen bod has pulled a sickie again today. Just chatting with my insurance people about raising a claim and getting them to sort the thing out. I do not want a window fitting company bodging it together and it start having electrical woes some point down the line.
As mentioned above - the insurance company guarantee any repairs they have arranged/paid for so it's right that they now sort it for you.