Life getting a little harder for parking enforcement?
Life getting a little harder for parking enforcement?
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handpaper

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1,588 posts

224 months

Sunday 11th January
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Art of Law has just posted an interesting video. Seems private parking companies have been saving money by getting unqualified representation at small claims court, using the exemption that these trainees are under supervision.

Well, it turns out that quite a few are not, and one was recently denied rights of audience because of this..

Whether this puts a crimp in their operations or just bumps their 'costs' it will be interesting to see.

ADJimbo

816 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th January
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handpaper said:
Art of Law has just posted an interesting video. Seems private parking companies have been saving money by getting unqualified representation at small claims court, using the exemption that these trainees are under supervision.

Well, it turns out that quite a few are not, and one was recently denied rights of audience because of this..

Whether this puts a crimp in their operations or just bumps their 'costs' it will be interesting to see.
Funny you should mention this…

I defended one, for a very good friend of mine, last month - on a pro-bono cum lager-based Rugby-do renumeration basis. I’m surprised the parking company even ran it to a hearing they were on that much shaky ground - even with their disclosure.

They actually ran it…

It’s was about a six minute hearing and their ‘legal-advisor’ that they’d fielded for the hearing, quite clearly, didn’t know his harris from his elbow he was so far out of his depth it was heartbreaking.

It’s very rare that I sympathise with the opposing advocate, but my heart went out to this poor lad. It wasn’t his fault - they’d sent him to a knife-fight with a rusty spoon and not even told him which end to wave the spoon about, knowing full well he’d be getting a kicking.



KungFuPanda

4,576 posts

191 months

Monday 12th January
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I defended one recently too. The legal representatives were DCBL Legal. They discontinued a week after both parties receiving notice of hearing date. All of these type of “law firms” use masses of unqualified (and brain dead) call handlers to chase people for parking fines and small debts.

Anyhow, this is the case that has got all those legal call centres worried:

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/civil-litigat...


carl_w

10,335 posts

279 months

Monday 12th January
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KungFuPanda said:
I defended one recently too. The legal representatives were DCBL Legal. They discontinued a week after both parties receiving notice of hearing date. All of these type of law firms use masses of unqualified (and brain dead) call handlers to chase people for parking fines and small debts.

Anyhow, this is the case that has got all those legal call centres worried:

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/civil-litigat...
DCB Legal always discontinue. In my case it was the day before they had to pay the court filing fee.

Terminator X

19,266 posts

225 months

Monday 12th January
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I'm surprised they take anyone to court. Any ticket that I've had private parking, I send them some standard words and they almost always cancel the ticket. The few that don't send about 4 standard letters then never again.

TX.

vaud

57,567 posts

176 months

Monday 12th January
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“pro-bono cum lager-based Rugby-do renumeration basis.”

New favourite phrase for pro bono . Thanks.

KungFuPanda

4,576 posts

191 months

Monday 12th January
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vaud said:
pro-bono cum lager-based Rugby-do renumeration basis.

New favourite phrase for pro bono . Thanks.
was there a client care letter too??? 😂😂😂

Steve-B

900 posts

303 months

Monday 12th January
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KungFuPanda said:
Anyhow, this is the case that has got all those legal call centres worried:

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/civil-litigat...
As an armchair solicitor, I suspect section 1.1 will be used as their get out of jail card for use of unapproved persons:

Previous case law has made clear that generally the penalty for any breach should be through disciplinary proceedings and should not have any impact on the case before the court.

ADJimbo

816 posts

207 months

Monday 12th January
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KungFuPanda said:
vaud said:
pro-bono cum lager-based Rugby-do renumeration basis.

New favourite phrase for pro bono . Thanks.
was there a client care letter too??? ???
Never bothered issuing him with a CCL - what s the point in doing so?

If he couldn t even read and comprehend a billy-basic parking sign, then there is not a hope in hell he’d be able to read the CCL.

I really ought to get some better friends in all fairness.

vaud

57,567 posts

176 months

Monday 12th January
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ADJimbo said:
Never bothered issuing him with a CCL - what s the point in doing so?
I think it was tongue in cheek...

ADJimbo

816 posts

207 months

Monday 12th January
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vaud said:
I think it was tongue in cheek...
I know, I know…

Lo-Fi

1,271 posts

91 months

Monday 12th January
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ADJimbo said:
handpaper said:
Art of Law has just posted an interesting video. Seems private parking companies have been saving money by getting unqualified representation at small claims court, using the exemption that these trainees are under supervision.

Well, it turns out that quite a few are not, and one was recently denied rights of audience because of this..

Whether this puts a crimp in their operations or just bumps their 'costs' it will be interesting to see.
Funny you should mention this

I defended one, for a very good friend of mine, last month - on a pro-bono cum lager-based Rugby-do renumeration basis. I m surprised the parking company even ran it to a hearing they were on that much shaky ground - even with their disclosure.

They actually ran it

It s was about a six minute hearing and their legal-advisor that they d fielded for the hearing, quite clearly, didn t know his harris from his elbow he was so far out of his depth it was heartbreaking.

It s very rare that I sympathise with the opposing advocate, but my heart went out to this poor lad. It wasn t his fault - they d sent him to a knife-fight with a rusty spoon and not even told him which end to wave the spoon about, knowing full well he d be getting a kicking.
It's 'aris', btw. Short for Aristotle.

carl_w

10,335 posts

279 months

Monday 12th January
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Lo-Fi said:
It's 'aris', btw. Short for Aristotle.
Aristotle, bottle.
Bottle and glass, arse.

handpaper

Original Poster:

1,588 posts

224 months

Monday 12th January
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KungFuPanda said:
I defended one recently too. The legal representatives were DCBL Legal. They discontinued a week after both parties receiving notice of hearing date. All of these type of law firms use masses of unqualified (and brain dead) call handlers to chase people for parking fines and small debts.

Anyhow, this is the case that has got all those legal call centres worried:

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/civil-litigat...
That's interesting.

The conveyancing firm that handled a purchase for me in 2021* would, under that guidance, be unable to operate given that its founder was struck off by the SRA several years ago. Unless they employ a qualified patsy?


* Badly. Really badly. Terrible communication, didn't answer emails, almost impossible to phone. Advertised a web portal that I could use to track progress; it never worked. The purchase was not simultaneous with a sale, so Stamp Duty was due. They took this, along with a fee for handling it, and didn't pass it to HMRC, instead declaring that the purchase had been simultaneous with the sale. I discovered this when I did sell, and applied to HMRC for a rebate...