Impounded electric skateboard
Discussion
I came across this video .
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM8ECvSiAtR/?igsh=M...
This seems quite a heavy handed approach, to what I'm assuming is a first offence.
I actually have one and I do use it to nip to the pub, and shop in my local village . Whilst I was aware it's not strictly legal I didn't realise this is how much trouble I could be in
My board could do 20mph. When new on decent surface. Id struggle to get over 15 on the local surfaces. And i ride it mostly on the road/cycle lane in the village, might go on the pavement is it's clear but never at speed.
Also brings into question what would happen when I ride it home after a few pints?
Seems abit backwards to me, it's a really handy way to get about. As fast as the scooters, but far smaller , lighter and convenient package.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM8ECvSiAtR/?igsh=M...
This seems quite a heavy handed approach, to what I'm assuming is a first offence.
I actually have one and I do use it to nip to the pub, and shop in my local village . Whilst I was aware it's not strictly legal I didn't realise this is how much trouble I could be in
My board could do 20mph. When new on decent surface. Id struggle to get over 15 on the local surfaces. And i ride it mostly on the road/cycle lane in the village, might go on the pavement is it's clear but never at speed.
Also brings into question what would happen when I ride it home after a few pints?
Seems abit backwards to me, it's a really handy way to get about. As fast as the scooters, but far smaller , lighter and convenient package.
Zephyr Speedshop said:
I came across this video .
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM8ECvSiAtR/?igsh=M...
This seems quite a heavy handed approach, to what I'm assuming is a first offence.
I actually have one and I do use it to nip to the pub, and shop in my local village . Whilst I was aware it's not strictly legal I didn't realise this is how much trouble I could be in
My board could do 20mph. When new on decent surface. Id struggle to get over 15 on the local surfaces. And i ride it mostly on the road/cycle lane in the village, might go on the pavement is it's clear but never at speed.
Also brings into question what would happen when I ride it home after a few pints?
Seems abit backwards to me, it's a really handy way to get about. As fast as the scooters, but far smaller , lighter and convenient package.
Its not a case of "not strictly legal", they're totally illegal. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM8ECvSiAtR/?igsh=M...
This seems quite a heavy handed approach, to what I'm assuming is a first offence.
I actually have one and I do use it to nip to the pub, and shop in my local village . Whilst I was aware it's not strictly legal I didn't realise this is how much trouble I could be in
My board could do 20mph. When new on decent surface. Id struggle to get over 15 on the local surfaces. And i ride it mostly on the road/cycle lane in the village, might go on the pavement is it's clear but never at speed.
Also brings into question what would happen when I ride it home after a few pints?
Seems abit backwards to me, it's a really handy way to get about. As fast as the scooters, but far smaller , lighter and convenient package.
Lets look at it another way.
Someone drives a car, no insurance, no number plates, no license and gets stopped by the police... First offence. What do you think the result would be?
As for riding it home after a few pints, could see a minimum 12-month driving ban, fines, imprisonment up to 6 months, and license points.
This is primarily talking about scooters but an electric skateboard would also be considered a vehicle in the same way. https://www.isinwheel.co.uk/blogs/news/can-you-get...
My gut reaction to this is that it's the kind of jobsworth misapplication of the law that erodes respect for the police.
This should be a warning and opportunity for education at most.
All this situation seems to do is emphasise that in this country you can be disproportionately punished for being a law-abiding citizen who makes a mistake...
...but shoplifters can carry on at will.
This should be a warning and opportunity for education at most.
All this situation seems to do is emphasise that in this country you can be disproportionately punished for being a law-abiding citizen who makes a mistake...
...but shoplifters can carry on at will.
Did anyone see/hear the news today about a young British woman who killed a chap in Australia whilst riding an electric scooter? I know it's not the same thing but it's not a million miles away either. An electric skateboard is a motorised bit of kit capable of speeds that could really injure someone. Why should this be allowed without insurance or to be ridden by someone who's a bit worse for wear coming home from the pub. Or is the OP just trolling?
Don't have one but I wonder about the braking/avoidance ability of the skateboards. No idea what the likely repercussions would be but surely safer to walk?
In our village there are 3 scooters; 2 driven by kids whom only like to wear black and ride them like they own the roads including down a busy, fast, A road. 1 driven by a dad who has improved the speed and, i assjme, thinks he is cool.
You just know if they are involved in accident on the road (scant lack of pavements) they are likely to be badly hurt and ths car driver would be assumed guilty for lack of care and attention.
In our village there are 3 scooters; 2 driven by kids whom only like to wear black and ride them like they own the roads including down a busy, fast, A road. 1 driven by a dad who has improved the speed and, i assjme, thinks he is cool.
You just know if they are involved in accident on the road (scant lack of pavements) they are likely to be badly hurt and ths car driver would be assumed guilty for lack of care and attention.
NDNDNDND said:
My gut reaction to this is that it's the kind of jobsworth misapplication of the law that erodes respect for the police.
This should be a warning and opportunity for education at most.
All this situation seems to do is emphasise that in this country you can be disproportionately punished for being a law-abiding citizen who makes a mistake...
...but shoplifters can carry on at will.
But that opens the gate for any deliberate law breaking to just be "a mistake" - ie a mistake of getting caught.This should be a warning and opportunity for education at most.
All this situation seems to do is emphasise that in this country you can be disproportionately punished for being a law-abiding citizen who makes a mistake...
...but shoplifters can carry on at will.
It's the danger to other people that sets it apart from shoplifting (imo - not that i suppirt shop lifting in any way.)
Fastdruid said:
Its not a case of "not strictly legal", they're totally illegal.
Lets look at it another way.
Someone drives a car, no insurance, no number plates, no license and gets stopped by the police... First offence. What do you think the result would be?
Ok, but cyclists? They don't have insurance, where is the line? If a cyclist were to hit me, well surely I have been hit by an uninsured road user? It seems their whole point is that to use the road you need insurance, then surely that needs to apply to everyone that uses the road.Lets look at it another way.
Someone drives a car, no insurance, no number plates, no license and gets stopped by the police... First offence. What do you think the result would be?
pits said:
Fastdruid said:
Its not a case of "not strictly legal", they're totally illegal.
Lets look at it another way.
Someone drives a car, no insurance, no number plates, no license and gets stopped by the police... First offence. What do you think the result would be?
Ok, but cyclists? They don't have insurance, where is the line? If a cyclist were to hit me, well surely I have been hit by an uninsured road user? It seems their whole point is that to use the road you need insurance, then surely that needs to apply to everyone that uses the road.Lets look at it another way.
Someone drives a car, no insurance, no number plates, no license and gets stopped by the police... First offence. What do you think the result would be?
Cycles and e-bikes (defined by very strict criteria) are not motor vehicles, and neither are pedestrians or horse riders. This means that many road traffic laws don’t apply to them. Many other laws do though.
pits said:
Fastdruid said:
Its not a case of "not strictly legal", they're totally illegal.
Lets look at it another way.
Someone drives a car, no insurance, no number plates, no license and gets stopped by the police... First offence. What do you think the result would be?
Ok, but cyclists? They don't have insurance, where is the line? If a cyclist were to hit me, well surely I have been hit by an uninsured road user? It seems their whole point is that to use the road you need insurance, then surely that needs to apply to everyone that uses the road.Lets look at it another way.
Someone drives a car, no insurance, no number plates, no license and gets stopped by the police... First offence. What do you think the result would be?
But I agree that a very lightweight and very low speed motorized vehicle like an electric skateboard is more akin to a bicycle than a car in terms of it's potential to cause death and destruction. Arguably an area where the law has not kept pace with technology. Though with the Daily Mail and half the population thinking that they are a lethal menace which must be kept of our streets at all costs it's easy to see why "leave the law as it is" is the path of least resistance for lawmakers.
I do agree that in terms of police priorities, chasing after electric skateboard riders should rank slightly below arresting grannies who hold up a placard that says "Palestine Action", but apparently that is Extremely Important Police Work as well.
I'm also on the side of this being excessive regulation. I'd like to see encouragement of electric skateboards/scooters/bikes etc. I've seen people using them to commute in towns and cities and think it looks like a good option. I don't have any of them myself.
Are we going to regulate everything that isn't sitting on a sofa watching Netflix? It often feels that way to me.
Are we going to regulate everything that isn't sitting on a sofa watching Netflix? It often feels that way to me.
Fastdruid said:
Zephyr Speedshop said:
I came across this video .
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM8ECvSiAtR/?igsh=M...
This seems quite a heavy handed approach, to what I'm assuming is a first offence.
I actually have one and I do use it to nip to the pub, and shop in my local village . Whilst I was aware it's not strictly legal I didn't realise this is how much trouble I could be in
My board could do 20mph. When new on decent surface. Id struggle to get over 15 on the local surfaces. And i ride it mostly on the road/cycle lane in the village, might go on the pavement is it's clear but never at speed.
Also brings into question what would happen when I ride it home after a few pints?
Seems abit backwards to me, it's a really handy way to get about. As fast as the scooters, but far smaller , lighter and convenient package.
Its not a case of "not strictly legal", they're totally illegal. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM8ECvSiAtR/?igsh=M...
This seems quite a heavy handed approach, to what I'm assuming is a first offence.
I actually have one and I do use it to nip to the pub, and shop in my local village . Whilst I was aware it's not strictly legal I didn't realise this is how much trouble I could be in
My board could do 20mph. When new on decent surface. Id struggle to get over 15 on the local surfaces. And i ride it mostly on the road/cycle lane in the village, might go on the pavement is it's clear but never at speed.
Also brings into question what would happen when I ride it home after a few pints?
Seems abit backwards to me, it's a really handy way to get about. As fast as the scooters, but far smaller , lighter and convenient package.
Lets look at it another way.
Someone drives a car, no insurance, no number plates, no license and gets stopped by the police... First offence. What do you think the result would be?
As for riding it home after a few pints, could see a minimum 12-month driving ban, fines, imprisonment up to 6 months, and license points.
This is primarily talking about scooters but an electric skateboard would also be considered a vehicle in the same way. https://www.isinwheel.co.uk/blogs/news/can-you-get...
t on it. Like being drunk on a bicycle. my dad has an 'E MTB' weighs in at 25kg, and is legal? My skateboard is around 10kg? I know what I'd rather be hit by.
The local lycra enthusiasts will happily rip through town at over 20mph?
So what happens if my dad hits someone or something on the 'E mtb' ? It's not a surron thing it's a legit, bike with pedals, that legal.
Really makes zero sense.
Edited by Zephyr Speedshop on Monday 11th August 23:46
TheDrownedApe said:
Don't have one but I wonder about the braking/avoidance ability of the skateboards. No idea what the likely repercussions would be but surely safer to walk?
In our village there are 3 scooters; 2 driven by kids whom only like to wear black and ride them like they own the roads including down a busy, fast, A road. 1 driven by a dad who has improved the speed and, i assjme, thinks he is cool.
You just know if they are involved in accident on the road (scant lack of pavements) they are likely to be badly hurt and ths car driver would be assumed guilty for lack of care and attention.
Surprisingly good at stopping, as it has quite alot of contact patch compared to a scooter. The wheels are about 80mm wide cylinders rather than a profiled tyre. And it uses both rears to drive and stop, it's actually pretty cleaver as it used regen to stop until you need to really stop then uses power to retard the wheels . The regen is enough.to stop you. In normal use. In our village there are 3 scooters; 2 driven by kids whom only like to wear black and ride them like they own the roads including down a busy, fast, A road. 1 driven by a dad who has improved the speed and, i assjme, thinks he is cool.
You just know if they are involved in accident on the road (scant lack of pavements) they are likely to be badly hurt and ths car driver would be assumed guilty for lack of care and attention.
Movability is probably not quite as good. But again think you would.be surprised with how good it is.
Edited by Zephyr Speedshop on Monday 11th August 23:49
OldGermanHeaps said:
I'm glad so much effort is being put in to eradicating affordable zero emissions congestion relieving personal transport. It really aligns with all the other bs being forced on us.
Exactly, I'm lazy and hate walking it's about 15mins walk . So my options now are getting my overpriced mountain bike out, and leave it locked up outside the pub/shop. Only to find its been nicked. (At least I'm not using my skateboard though) Or jump in the car.
NDNDNDND said:
My gut reaction to this is that it's the kind of jobsworth misapplication of the law that erodes respect for the police.
This should be a warning and opportunity for education at most.
All this situation seems to do is emphasise that in this country you can be disproportionately punished for being a law-abiding citizen who makes a mistake...
...but shoplifters can carry on at will.
That's how it feels to me, this really feels like it's a part of the law that officers could use some discretion. This should be a warning and opportunity for education at most.
All this situation seems to do is emphasise that in this country you can be disproportionately punished for being a law-abiding citizen who makes a mistake...
...but shoplifters can carry on at will.
Yes if I've got it pinned down the pavement on a busy Saturday afternoon. Absolutely give me a ticking off or confiscate it. But if I'm otherwise abideing by traffic laws, and being consideret. Surely, it's something they could turn a blind eye to?
It wouldn't take much to regulate them to a max speed, and make people take an online course to be legal.
They managed it with drones. .
Zephyr Speedshop said:
NDNDNDND said:
My gut reaction to this is that it's the kind of jobsworth misapplication of the law that erodes respect for the police.
This should be a warning and opportunity for education at most.
All this situation seems to do is emphasise that in this country you can be disproportionately punished for being a law-abiding citizen who makes a mistake...
...but shoplifters can carry on at will.
That's how it feels to me, this really feels like it's a part of the law that officers could use some discretion. This should be a warning and opportunity for education at most.
All this situation seems to do is emphasise that in this country you can be disproportionately punished for being a law-abiding citizen who makes a mistake...
...but shoplifters can carry on at will.
Yes if I've got it pinned down the pavement on a busy Saturday afternoon. Absolutely give me a ticking off or confiscate it. But if I'm otherwise abideing by traffic laws, and being consideret. Surely, it's something they could turn a blind eye to?
It wouldn't take much to regulate them to a max speed, and make people take an online course to be legal.
They managed it with drones. .
Zephyr Speedshop said:
That's how it feels to me, this really feels like it's a part of the law that officers could use some discretion.
Yes if I've got it pinned down the pavement on a busy Saturday afternoon. Absolutely give me a ticking off or confiscate it. But if I'm otherwise abideing by traffic laws, and being consideret. Surely, it's something they could turn a blind eye to?
You may be abiding by some road traffic laws, but not to the road traffic law that is being enforced on this occasion. That’s how it works, one is enough.Yes if I've got it pinned down the pavement on a busy Saturday afternoon. Absolutely give me a ticking off or confiscate it. But if I'm otherwise abideing by traffic laws, and being consideret. Surely, it's something they could turn a blind eye to?
Zephyr Speedshop said:
It wouldn't take much to regulate them to a max speed, and make people take an online course to be legal.
They managed it with drones. .
They are regulated. You can’t use them, as it seems you are now very aware of. I’m guessing you knew that when you used it and before being caught out.They managed it with drones. .
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