Shocking police response

[Billybob_55]

Parked up.for the night in truck and noticed very suspicious activity around half.9 at night.

Clearly seeing a robbery taking place..did the online chat followed by being told to call 999.

Describing what im.seeing and hearing they adviced me the response team are en route.

2 hours later 1 female officer turns up. Takes few details..has a look and leave. Couldn't care the slightest. Would only follow up if the company calls the following day to report.

The said company had previously been robbed of allot of copper piping from an out building and having spent allot.of money replacing now races having to replace yet again.

So this is a response time from a 999 call and if they had turned up even within half an hour of calling they would have still been caught in the act. Clearly with the noise they didnt care

No wonder county is on its knees

[scorcher]

Unless it’s life or death I doubt they would hurry. Even then they could shun responsibility over to the ambulance service. Maybe everyone was tied up on more important work and it never warranted a quick response this time.

[GasEngineer]

Do you mean robbery or theft?

If robbery wouldn't the police officer get a statement from the person who had been robbed?

[LosingGrip]

Billybob_55 said:

Parked up.for the night in truck and noticed very suspicious activity around half.9 at night.

Clearly seeing a robbery taking place..did the online chat followed by being told to call 999.

Describing what im.seeing and hearing they adviced me the response team are en route.

2 hours later 1 female officer turns up. Takes few details..has a look and leave. Couldn't care the slightest. Would only follow up if the company calls the following day to report.

The said company had previously been robbed of allot of copper piping from an out building and having spent allot.of money replacing now races having to replace yet again.

So this is a response time from a 999 call and if they had turned up even within half an hour of calling they would have still been caught in the act. Clearly with the noise they didnt care

No wonder county is on its knees

If you had called 999 first instead of doing an online chat they may have got there sooner.

Calls are graded on threat, risk, harm. Whilst I'd guess jt would be a grade one, they may not of had anyone to attend straightaway. If a domestic comes in, that takes priority.

You clearly didn't feel it deserved a grade one response straight away or you would have called 999.

[steveo3002]

they prefer to pick off the low hanging fruit , no doubt a man with a camera somewhere or an email with a nasty word to sort out first

[NDNDNDND]

That's what happens if you underfund public services for 40 years in order to cut taxes to 'drive growth' (for whom, exactly?) and then tell them to prioritise 'efficiency' over acting in the public interest...

It seems the majority of people don't realise that public services exist to support economic activity. They don't need to be 'efficient' they need to be robust or else the price paid in the rest of society is much, much higher than the 'saving'.

[DaveCWK]

"it's very dark & i'm not entirely sure & am some distance away but just to add I think I also heard a scream"

Then it gets a proper emergency response
Then the prioritisation system fails, and actual priority crimes go unattended.
Then the issue is forced by media pressure & we can have a proper debate about the police/funding/priorities etc.

[birdcage]

Perhaps you should have said they looked like they were carrying some 'Brexity' books?

[The Gauge]

Why do people say robbery when it’s a theft, they even say it for burglaries’”my house was robbed”

[eldar]

The Gauge said:

Why do people say robbery when it s a theft, they even say it for burglaries my house was robbed

Perhaps the victim's mind is on things other than pedantry. Why don't people bother with accurate punctuation?

[Red9zero]

scorcher said:

Unless it s life or death I doubt they would hurry. Even then they could shun responsibility over to the ambulance service. Maybe everyone was tied up on more important work and it never warranted a quick response this time.

A neighbour regularly calls the Police and is flagged as "vulnerable", and she will get a Police car within minutes. Assault, robbery in progress and you get a phone call the next day.

[thisnameistaken]

Red9zero said:

A neighbour regularly calls the Police and is flagged as "vulnerable", and she will get a Police car within minutes. Assault, robbery in progress and you get a phone call the next day.

You really don t. Assault and robbery in progress will get a priority. A theft from commercial premises that s delayed in being reported to the police because the person reporting it didn t think they needed to call on the 9s so by the time it actually gets through won t ever be a priority and neither should it be. If it was actually a robbery then I agree, poor response but even still, you didn’t help by reporting online.

[Red9zero]

thisnameistaken said:

Red9zero said:

A neighbour regularly calls the Police and is flagged as "vulnerable", and she will get a Police car within minutes. Assault, robbery in progress and you get a phone call the next day.

You really don t. Assault and robbery in progress will get a priority. A theft from commercial premises that s delayed in being reported to the police because the person reporting it didn t think they needed to call on the 9s so by the time it actually gets through won t ever be a priority and neither should it be. If it was actually a robbery then I agree, poor response but even still, you didn t help by reporting online.

I was assaulted and got a phone call 18 hours later. A neighbour had burglars in the house who luckily just took car keys that were by the door. Rang while they were in the house but they left while still on the phone. Got a visit the next day.

Edited by Red9zero on Tuesday 1st July 10:45

[Mont Blanc]

steveo3002 said:

they prefer to pick off the low hanging fruit , no doubt a man with a camera somewhere or an email with a nasty word to sort out first

Absolutely this.

If you want them to turn up within minutes, on blue lights, then stand in a public place and take photographs and/or video.

[thisnameistaken]

Red9zero said:

I was assaulted and got a phone call 18 hours later. A neighbour had burglars in the house who luckily just took car keys that were by the door. Rang while they were in the house but they left while still on the phone. Got a visit the next day.

Edited by Red9zero on Tuesday 1st July 10:45

I don’t think you meant it but your examples prove my point. In both situations the immediate risk had gone. It’d be lovely if there were enough cops to make a big show for everyone in their time of need but there’s not enough money for that so pragmatism is required. Sorry, I know it’s st and we’d all love a personal copper to arrive within minutes of being assaulted but that’s not the world we live in or the tax structure we support so the coppers who could have come to you after you’d been assaulted were trying to help someone being assaulted.

[Red9zero]

thisnameistaken said:

Red9zero said:

I was assaulted and got a phone call 18 hours later. A neighbour had burglars in the house who luckily just took car keys that were by the door. Rang while they were in the house but they left while still on the phone. Got a visit the next day.

Edited by Red9zero on Tuesday 1st July 10:45

I don t think you meant it but your examples prove my point. In both situations the immediate risk had gone. It d be lovely if there were enough cops to make a big show for everyone in their time of need but there s not enough money for that so pragmatism is required. Sorry, I know it s st and we d all love a personal copper to arrive within minutes of being assaulted but that s not the world we live in or the tax structure we support so the coppers who could have come to you after you d been assaulted were trying to help someone being assaulted.

The immediate risk in my case hadn't gone as he was still in the area. If they had attended they may have apprehended him, as opposed to letting the case drop months later as they hadn't been able to contact him. But yeah, targets etc. Anyhow, we are taking the standard PH response and just moving house.

[thisnameistaken]

Red9zero said:

The immediate risk in my case hadn't gone as he was still in the area. If they had attended they may have apprehended him, as opposed to letting the case drop months later as they hadn't been able to contact him. But yeah, targets etc. Anyhow, we are taking the standard PH response and just moving house.

I’m not arguing with you, and I’m sorry you’re not happy. I’m just saying why these things happen. I assure you, from someone who makes decisions like this and needs to justify them at coroners court, someone in the immediate area where you can get away is magnitudes less risk than someone being assaulted.

I am sorry you didn’t get the criminal justice outcome you wanted but whoever made a decision to prioritise another incident over yours did it because of immediate risk with regard to evidence acquisition and CJ outcomes a secondary. Ultimately someone’s article 1 right to life trumps everything else.

Anyway, I can see you’re wound up and I’m genuinely not trying to antagonise, just trying give an answer from someone who actually makes those decisions as opposed to just the, “yeah they’re st bandwagon.”

[Red9zero]

thisnameistaken said:

I m not arguing with you, and I m sorry you re not happy. I m just saying why these things happen. I assure you, from someone who makes decisions like this and needs to justify them at coroners court, someone in the immediate area where you can get away is magnitudes less risk than someone being assaulted.

I am sorry you didn t get the criminal justice outcome you wanted but whoever made a decision to prioritise another incident over yours did it because of immediate risk with regard to evidence acquisition and CJ outcomes a secondary. Ultimately someone s article 1 right to life trumps everything else.

Anyway, I can see you re wound up and I m genuinely not trying to antagonise, just trying give an answer from someone who actually makes those decisions as opposed to just the, yeah they re st bandwagon.

I had CCTV of the whole thing, which was actually as a result of me helping the Police and them disclosing that information, so yeah, a bit wound up. Anyway, it has given us the push to move sooner rather than later to get away from the whole situation.

[eldar]

Mont Blanc said:

Absolutely this.

If you want them to turn up within minutes, on blue lights, then stand in a public place and take photographs and/or video.

Tried this. Police didn't appear at all. Had a nice chat with a neighbour about the weather, though.

I'll be complaining to the Chief Constable.

[The Gauge]

eldar said:

The Gauge said:

Why do people say robbery when it s a theft, they even say it for burglaries my house was robbed

Perhaps the victim's mind is on things other than pedantry. Why don't people bother with accurate punctuation?

Because when using a phone to type a post, PH often misses off apostrophes etc and I m not going back to do an edit. Also the OP isn t the victim, and I never said it was the victims making this mistake.

Edited by The Gauge on Tuesday 1st July 16:29