Impounded motorcycle

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Nickshangs

Original Poster:

18 posts

93 months

Monday 12th May
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Hi all , I’ve never posted before but thought I’d post and ask a question as I’m in a bit of a sticky situation.

Last Thursday I purchased a motorbike , a moped Suzuki 110cc and was planning to get my CBT license and then insurance. I decided to take a chance and ride it and guess what I was stopped by the police who flagged me up under their onboard computer. So I came clean and they impounded my bike and I got 6 points , fine etc. that’s all well and good as I deserved it and will never ever do that again.

The bike is now in the compound so I’ve fast tracked my CBT course for tomorrow ( I’ve been given only 7 days to collect before it’s sold by the police ) and taken out an insurance policy on the bike , it was already MOT’d too , and here’s the actual question.

The policy states the following :

“Use to secure the release of a motor vehicle, other than the vehicle identified above by its registration number, which has been seized by or on behalf of, any government or public authority, unless the effective date of the certificate pre-dates the date of the seizure”


It seems a bit complicated but does this policy allow me to collect the bike from the police pound ?

I’ve read other threads but there seems to be a question mark as to whether the policy is ok or not , has anyone had a similar experience and collected the bike using this policy ?




SS427 Camaro

7,245 posts

183 months

Tuesday 13th May
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Get it recovered

Nibbles_bits

1,731 posts

52 months

Tuesday 13th May
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SS427 Camaro said:
Get it recovered
??

It's been seized for no insurance. It can't be "recovered" without a valid insurance policy in place.

OP - https://www.essex.police.uk/advice/advice-and-info...

Bagzie88

188 posts

79 months

Tuesday 13th May
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Sell the bike for a reduced cost and give them the V5 new owner slip and they will take care of the rest.

Wouldn't bother with a CBT , you are not ready to be on the roads.

Aretnap

1,832 posts

164 months

Tuesday 13th May
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Nickshangs said:
The policy states the following :

“Use to secure the release of a motor vehicle, other than the vehicle identified above by its registration number, which has been seized by or on behalf of, any government or public authority, unless the effective date of the certificate pre-dates the date of the seizure”

It seems a bit complicated but does this policy allow me to collect the bike from the police pound ?
The key words are "other than the vehicle identified above by it's registration mark". You can use it to release the bike that the policy actually covers. You can't use it to release any other bike, eg if the policy comes with driving other vehicles cover, you can't use it to collect a friend's bike that has been seized.

That said there have been a couple of threads where the staff at the pound seem to have claimed that a normal policy doesn't allow you to release a vehicle and that you need an expensive specialist policy. However your policy clearly does say that it covers the release of your vehicle.

Presumably you told the insurance company about the pending conviction/prosecution/fixed pregnancy for no insurance when you took the policy out?

paul_c123

521 posts

6 months

Tuesday 13th May
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I think the problem will be you took out the policy after the seizure. The last phrase in the sentence seems to say, you can't use it to recover the bike under these circumstances.

Aretnap

1,832 posts

164 months

Tuesday 13th May
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paul_c123 said:
I think the problem will be you took out the policy after the seizure. The last phrase in the sentence seems to say, you can't use it to recover the bike under these circumstances.
"...other than the vehicle identified above by its registration number."

cuprabob

16,427 posts

227 months

Tuesday 13th May
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Nickshangs said:

Last Thursday I purchased a motorbike , a moped Suzuki 110cc
If it's 110cc, it is not a moped. Mopeds are 50cc or less.

Nickshangs

Original Poster:

18 posts

93 months

Tuesday 13th May
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cuprabob said:
If it's 110cc, it is not a moped. Mopeds are 50cc or less.
Correct , it’s classed as a scooter not a moped

Ian Geary

4,950 posts

205 months

Tuesday 13th May
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That was pretty bad luck with a big consequence.


Anyway, does the policy say that the paragraph is what is allowed under the policy?


Nickshangs said:


The policy states the following :

“Use to secure the release of a motor vehicle, other than the vehicle identified above by its registration number, which has been seized by or on behalf of, any government or public authority, unless the effective date of the certificate pre-dates the date of the seizure”
In which case, it cannot be used to collect your bike, given the certificate date is after the seizure, despite the registration number matching.


I would suggest you speak to your insurance company - this must be a situation that has arisen before

Nickshangs

Original Poster:

18 posts

93 months

Tuesday 13th May
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Aretnap said:
"...other than the vehicle identified above by its registration number."
Yes I’m hoping this is correct , that only the vehicle mentioned in the policy can be recovered and not any other vehicle. I’ve mentioned my pending conviction for 6 points to the insurance company, hence a whopping £1,650 for a 110cc scooter policy which would usually be around £350-500 So hoping I’m in the clear and learnt my lesson the hard way

Edited by Nickshangs on Tuesday 13th May 07:24

Nickshangs

Original Poster:

18 posts

93 months

Tuesday 13th May
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Ian Geary said:
In which case, it cannot be used to collect your bike, given the certificate date is after the seizure, despite the registration number matching.


I would suggest you speak to your insurance company - this must be a situation that has arisen before
Again , I think that is still referring to the collection of a different vehicle than the one mentioned in the policy , that’s why I started this thread as it’s so confusing.

BertBert

20,216 posts

224 months

Tuesday 13th May
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What does it say above the bit you quoted? That wording doesn't make sense with the wording that came before.

Aretnap

1,832 posts

164 months

Tuesday 13th May
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Ian Geary said:
Anyway, does the policy say that the paragraph is what is allowed under the policy?
I'm assuming that it comes under a list of things that the policy does not cover. Obviously if it's under a list of things that it does cover that would change the interpretation, but it would be a bizarre policy that covered the release of other vehicles, but not the one that it was actually intended to insure.

E-bmw

10,843 posts

165 months

Tuesday 13th May
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In a nutshell, not covered as you took out the policy after the bike was impounded.


markymarkthree

2,913 posts

184 months

Tuesday 13th May
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Is it possible to SORN it. Then collect in a van ?

TwigtheWonderkid

45,859 posts

163 months

Tuesday 13th May
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Ian Geary said:
That was pretty bad luck with a big consequence.
Good luck for the rest of us. There's enough people with poor judgement and bad decision making on the roads.

InitialDave

13,043 posts

132 months

Tuesday 13th May
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Aretnap said:
Presumably you told the insurance company about the pending conviction/prosecution/fixed pregnancy for no insurance when you took the policy out?
I know people talk about insurance costs fking them, but that's quite extreme.

Nibbles_bits

1,731 posts

52 months

Tuesday 13th May
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markymarkthree said:
Is it possible to SORN it. Then collect in a van ?
No, because it needs an insurance policy in place for it to be released.

STe_rsv4

905 posts

111 months

Tuesday 13th May
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seeing as you're mot averse to taking a few small risks, why not break into the compound under the cover of darkness and steal it back?