Bus Lane PCN - Repeat Offence
Discussion
I recently began driving into the office after many years in a city centre location and have been a COMPLETE IDIOT and drove through a bus lane as I have exited the car park. It is marked but its very awkward as it is a mini round about. To make this worse I have been driving into the office once a week and doing the same for the last 8 weeks and received my first notice from the first week of September only today!!! This was 69 days ago - what are my options around appealing this? I am fully aware I have made the mistake but the fact the time lapse of the penalty coming through has not helped me to learn from my initial mistake. What are the rules of a PCN being issued from the offence?
I am wondering if this will be an isolated capture of my dumbness (pay up and hope no more come through) or should I call up the Council and fess up to try ease the pain by admitting fault to the multiple offences.
Any advice would be appreciated as this is looking like £500 plus (£70 a pop) at the moment when I was trying to save money by driving my electric car in LOL
I am wondering if this will be an isolated capture of my dumbness (pay up and hope no more come through) or should I call up the Council and fess up to try ease the pain by admitting fault to the multiple offences.
Any advice would be appreciated as this is looking like £500 plus (£70 a pop) at the moment when I was trying to save money by driving my electric car in LOL
Edited by jgrewal on Monday 11th November 14:26
Edited by jgrewal on Monday 11th November 14:38
Tin helmet enabled! I don't mind paying the 50% discounted rate on the first one but I am not even being given the option to so?
Looks like there was a big lag from my lease company sending my PCN in timely manner (not my fault at all?)
In an ideal world I would have received the first fine quickly understood and accepted my error then corrected the route. Instead I had been oblivious to the problem and carried on violating because the PCN never arrived until 69 days later!
Looks like there was a big lag from my lease company sending my PCN in timely manner (not my fault at all?)
In an ideal world I would have received the first fine quickly understood and accepted my error then corrected the route. Instead I had been oblivious to the problem and carried on violating because the PCN never arrived until 69 days later!
OutInTheShed said:
The Gauge said:
I'd be putting on a tin helmet to prepare myself for the onslaught of criticism the PH'ers are sure to throw your way. Most will be throwing them whilst sat on their high horse 
Are horses allowed in bus lanes?
te but what can you do.Thanks mate and yes I will suck it up because it is absolutely my error(S!) But surely we agree the time delay in in being issued is not ideal in this situation? Surely there must be some process in place to say a person should notified within a certain time frame for it to be eligible.
jgrewal said:
Thanks mate and yes I will suck it up because it is absolutely my error(S!) But surely we agree the time delay in in being issued is not ideal in this situation? Surely there must be some process in place to say a person should notified within a certain time frame for it to be eligible.
If there is such a process then it'll not apply to getting it to you if it's gone to the lease company as RK.If you open a case on ftla they will advise if it's fightable and how to go about it
https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
jgrewal said:
Tin helmet enabled! I don't mind paying the 50% discounted rate on the first one but I am not even being given the option to so?
Looks like there was a big lag from my lease company sending my PCN in timely manner (not my fault at all?)
In an ideal world I would have received the first fine quickly understood and accepted my error then corrected the route. Instead I had been oblivious to the problem and carried on violating because the PCN never arrived until 69 days later!
I had this. PCN was sent to company workshop. Looks like there was a big lag from my lease company sending my PCN in timely manner (not my fault at all?)
In an ideal world I would have received the first fine quickly understood and accepted my error then corrected the route. Instead I had been oblivious to the problem and carried on violating because the PCN never arrived until 69 days later!
By the time they'd worked out which department had the car, and then the department worked out who was driving, the time limit to even appeal had passed.
I just contacted the issuing office and appealed it with them, stating why it was so delayed.
I'm sure I read a similar* case on Pepipoo years and the advice was to appeal on the basis of "continuing contravention". That you were never given the opportunity to amend your behaviour before you committed the same offence. It would be abnormal having received one fine to continue the same exact offence in the same location week after week.
As someone else said, post on FTLA.
Also take pictures of any signs and road markings as well as the area in general.
As someone else said, post on FTLA.
Also take pictures of any signs and road markings as well as the area in general.
- Two or three offences, not seven or eight.
Edited by skyebear on Tuesday 12th November 00:26
I got caught last month. No idea it was a bus lane at the time, I was slightly lost and trying to get to a meeting. And then a week later the letter arrived. WTF? Scam? But there was the photo... I looked up the location on Streetview and it wasn't a scam after all. I'd turned left at a mini-roundabout and that was the bus lane - but you couldn't see the signs until you were in that road. A sign before the roundabout indicating the bus lane, or 'no cars' would have been helpful as there was no way to know until it was too late.
Simpo Two said:
I got caught last month. No idea it was a bus lane at the time, I was slightly lost and trying to get to a meeting. And then a week later the letter arrived. WTF? Scam? But there was the photo... I looked up the location on Streetview and it wasn't a scam after all. I'd turned left at a mini-roundabout and that was the bus lane - but you couldn't see the signs until you were in that road. A sign before the roundabout indicating the bus lane, or 'no cars' would have been helpful as there was no way to know until it was too late.
This is exactly what happen to me its on a mini roundabout as you exit a car park! Appreciate the advice guys - will try and keep this thread updated
Im sure some Councils deliberately catch people out with ridiculous bus lanes, as a money making scheme.
I know of 2 such bus lanes, where its sign posted as a junction, so you’d naturally think its like any other junction. Then as soon as you turn off it magically turns into a one way road / no U turn, so that you’re trapped. Then it’ll be a bus lane for an entire 40 metres with an enforcement camera, then it turns back into a normal road again.
There’s no logical reason why this 40 metre stretch of road was made into an enforced bus lane other that money.
I know of 2 such bus lanes, where its sign posted as a junction, so you’d naturally think its like any other junction. Then as soon as you turn off it magically turns into a one way road / no U turn, so that you’re trapped. Then it’ll be a bus lane for an entire 40 metres with an enforcement camera, then it turns back into a normal road again.
There’s no logical reason why this 40 metre stretch of road was made into an enforced bus lane other that money.
Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 13th November 12:07
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