Resident cops… telematics systems?
Discussion
Hi folks,
Trying to gauge what other Forces use re this. We’ve recently had go-live on the new telematics system, which requires swiping your warrant card.
It has an extremely loud BEEEEEP until you do so. The readers have been installed inside panels, etc so it sometimes/frequently takes ages to deactivate. I have a bit of misophonia so this is really unpleasant for me, some cars are worse than others.
Sometimes it won’t deactivate at all. It’s badly implemented.
I’ve tried challenging this via transport services, who weren’t really interested and told me this is the system many forces use. I feel it’s not a great system in a job whereby you have to take off quickly sometimes, even a safety issue as I had to urgently back up a unit and it wouldn’t deactivate so just had to drive with the BEEEEEEEEP!
Interested in the thoughts of resident BiB.
Trying to gauge what other Forces use re this. We’ve recently had go-live on the new telematics system, which requires swiping your warrant card.
It has an extremely loud BEEEEEP until you do so. The readers have been installed inside panels, etc so it sometimes/frequently takes ages to deactivate. I have a bit of misophonia so this is really unpleasant for me, some cars are worse than others.
Sometimes it won’t deactivate at all. It’s badly implemented.
I’ve tried challenging this via transport services, who weren’t really interested and told me this is the system many forces use. I feel it’s not a great system in a job whereby you have to take off quickly sometimes, even a safety issue as I had to urgently back up a unit and it wouldn’t deactivate so just had to drive with the BEEEEEEEEP!
Interested in the thoughts of resident BiB.
Yep know where your coming from. All our force cars have them, bloody annoying way to track who is driving, what, where and how fast. Some cars more annoying than others with really loud beep.
Not really a safety issue, you can drive away with the audible warning activated, the car doesn't stop working just because the alarm is sounding.
There was chat that they might do away with the system altogether due to the presumably high running costs but I can't see them being able to justify getting rid of an electronic 'big brother' in the current climate of police accountability and scrutiny.
Not really a safety issue, you can drive away with the audible warning activated, the car doesn't stop working just because the alarm is sounding.
There was chat that they might do away with the system altogether due to the presumably high running costs but I can't see them being able to justify getting rid of an electronic 'big brother' in the current climate of police accountability and scrutiny.
carreauchompeur said:
Hi folks,
Trying to gauge what other Forces use re this. We’ve recently had go-live on the new telematics system, which requires swiping your warrant card.
It has an extremely loud BEEEEEP until you do so. The readers have been installed inside panels, etc so it sometimes/frequently takes ages to deactivate. I have a bit of misophonia so this is really unpleasant for me, some cars are worse than others.
Sometimes it won’t deactivate at all. It’s badly implemented.
I’ve tried challenging this via transport services, who weren’t really interested and told me this is the system many forces use. I feel it’s not a great system in a job whereby you have to take off quickly sometimes, even a safety issue as I had to urgently back up a unit and it wouldn’t deactivate so just had to drive with the BEEEEEEEEP!
Interested in the thoughts of resident BiB.
We've got a system that we swipe a fob with. Had it for a few years (before it was another system). Works well. No real issues with scanning the fob. Ours are on the roof normally near the rear view mirror. Trying to gauge what other Forces use re this. We’ve recently had go-live on the new telematics system, which requires swiping your warrant card.
It has an extremely loud BEEEEEP until you do so. The readers have been installed inside panels, etc so it sometimes/frequently takes ages to deactivate. I have a bit of misophonia so this is really unpleasant for me, some cars are worse than others.
Sometimes it won’t deactivate at all. It’s badly implemented.
I’ve tried challenging this via transport services, who weren’t really interested and told me this is the system many forces use. I feel it’s not a great system in a job whereby you have to take off quickly sometimes, even a safety issue as I had to urgently back up a unit and it wouldn’t deactivate so just had to drive with the BEEEEEEEEP!
Interested in the thoughts of resident BiB.
First time you use a car you have to scan the fob twice.
The beep isn't too bad, you know it's there but it's like a seatbelt beep for us.
Up my way Telematics has caught a probationer out doing nearly 100 x blue light runs despite having not done his driving course yet. His defence is he was the passenger and was swiping on behalf of the driver to speed things up as they were rushing off to emergencies. He's on a disciplinary and awaiting investigation.
The Gauge said:
Up my way Telematics has caught a probationer out doing nearly 100 x blue light runs despite having not done his driving course yet. His defence is he was the passenger and was swiping on behalf of the driver to speed things up as they were rushing off to emergencies. He's on a disciplinary and awaiting investigation.
Surely that will be very easy to sort out? Just speak to who he was crewed with...I don't think I've ever been in that much of a rush not to be able to do it myself...its like putting a.sesrbelt on...
If the system doesn't deactivate, then defect the vehicle? Or is it just your card that won't work?
As with any new system it'll have teething problems, we've used IR3 for years. The issue for us is that the system isn't really monitored enough, in that if a vehicles telematics goes down, it should be easy to tell, but no one seems to take any responsibility. It's only wheeled out when the wheel comes off, so to speak.
I look at them like BWV, if you are doing things correctly then the system will back you up and protect you. If not, then more fool you.
As with any new system it'll have teething problems, we've used IR3 for years. The issue for us is that the system isn't really monitored enough, in that if a vehicles telematics goes down, it should be easy to tell, but no one seems to take any responsibility. It's only wheeled out when the wheel comes off, so to speak.
I look at them like BWV, if you are doing things correctly then the system will back you up and protect you. If not, then more fool you.
The deactivation is a bit hit and miss due to location of the readers under trim… some are more finicky than others.
I just question why such an ear splitting tone is necessary… I find it incredibly distracting so a safety issue if, in an emergency, it can’t be deactivated, as sometimes happens.
I just question why such an ear splitting tone is necessary… I find it incredibly distracting so a safety issue if, in an emergency, it can’t be deactivated, as sometimes happens.
We have the same, generally not an issue.
If the card reader is on top of the dash the sun kills them, meaning in the summer months they won't read your card and are bleeping all the time. Fleet services don't care but they will when someone rags one off the dash out of frustration. The beep is really loud so when the officer uses their airwave it's all you can hear.
If the card reader is on top of the dash the sun kills them, meaning in the summer months they won't read your card and are bleeping all the time. Fleet services don't care but they will when someone rags one off the dash out of frustration. The beep is really loud so when the officer uses their airwave it's all you can hear.
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