I recorded dangerous driving on dashcam, however...

I recorded dangerous driving on dashcam, however...

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Red_Bat

Original Poster:

3 posts

6 months

Friday 11th October
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Hello,
I recorded some seriously dangerous driving on a motorway which I'd like to submit to the police, for them to hopefully prosecute.

However, my footage includes my speed and while I was driving mostly at 75mph (under the 79 mph threshold), there are a few seconds where I go higher (not much, but technically above the threshold) when overtaking...

Can this be used against me and can I end up with a fine? Other than than I was by the book and the other driver is clearly the villain here, and I genuinely believe it is in the public interest for them to be prosecuted for such driving.

What would you do? Can I get in trouble for this small speeding infraction? Thank you very much.

Gnevans

489 posts

129 months

Friday 11th October
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What do you think? You are incriminating yourself.

Tycho

11,842 posts

280 months

Friday 11th October
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Crop the speed out of the video? hehe

Master Bean

4,003 posts

127 months

Friday 11th October
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Red_Bat said:
Hello,
I recorded some seriously dangerous driving on a motorway which I'd like to submit to the police, for them to hopefully prosecute.

However, my footage includes my speed and while I was driving mostly at 75mph (under the 79 mph threshold), there are a few seconds where I go higher (not much, but technically above the threshold) when overtaking...

Can this be used against me and can I end up with a fine? Other than than I was by the book and the other driver is clearly the villain here, and I genuinely believe it is in the public interest for them to be prosecuted for such driving.

What would you do? Can I get in trouble for this small speeding infraction? Thank you very much.
There is no threshold. It's just guesswork. Police can prosecute however they see fit.

Ham_and_Jam

2,565 posts

104 months

Friday 11th October
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Red_Bat said:
Hello,
I recorded some seriously dangerous driving on a motorway which I'd like to submit to the police, for them to hopefully prosecute.

However, my footage includes my speed and while I was driving mostly at 75mph (under the 79 mph threshold), there are a few seconds where I go higher (not much, but technically above the threshold) when overtaking...

Can this be used against me and can I end up with a fine? Other than than I was by the book and the other driver is clearly the villain here, and I genuinely believe it is in the public interest for them to be prosecuted for such driving.

What would you do? Can I get in trouble for this small speeding infraction? Thank you very much.
You want them to prosecute the other party breaking the law, but not you breaking the law?

Red_Bat

Original Poster:

3 posts

6 months

Friday 11th October
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Master Bean said:
There is no threshold. It's just guesswork. Police can prosecute however they see fit.
In effect there is, I've been regularly going at 75mph past speed cameras etc - never got a ticket...

mmm-five

11,431 posts

291 months

Friday 11th October
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Snitches get stitches biggrin

dundarach

5,368 posts

235 months

Friday 11th October
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Two dicks don't make a right, or something like that??

Sounds like you were one and they were one, just leave it alone, I would!

Somewhatfoolish

4,650 posts

193 months

Friday 11th October
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If it's genuinely *ludicrously* dangerous, then I think there are different statutes of limitation for dangerous driving (none) and speeding (six months)? I guess the question is whether the 14 day limit for NIP would apply if you haven't told the police before then.

Bob T

71 posts

219 months

Friday 11th October
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Is your dashcam approved equipment and have a calibration to support its accuracy ? If not then it is just an indicated speed so they would need additional evidence for a speeding offence.

Depending on what it shows you could both be done for dangerous driving... "The guy was driving like a @@@@ , I had to do over a 100 mph and swerve all over the road to keep up with him" smile

Vasco

17,343 posts

112 months

Friday 11th October
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Drop it, too much hassle.
Helpful if you were to keep to the speed limit too!

Shnozz

28,008 posts

278 months

Friday 11th October
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dundarach said:
Two dicks don't make a right, or something like that??

Sounds like you were one and they were one, just leave it alone, I would!
Mirrors my view.

And dangerous is subjective. My Dad would consider 75+ mph that you were doing to be a “dangerous speed”.

Where does it end? People sending dashcam footage of people sending dashcam footage? And then the person at the rear getting reported for doing 40 mph on a motorway…

Jimjimhim

1,501 posts

7 months

Friday 11th October
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dundarach said:
Two dicks don't make a right, or something like that??

Sounds like you were one and they were one, just leave it alone, I would!
How was he being a dick?

alscar

5,370 posts

220 months

Friday 11th October
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Red_Bat said:
Master Bean said:
There is no threshold. It's just guesswork. Police can prosecute however they see fit.
In effect there is, I've been regularly going at 75mph past speed cameras etc - never got a ticket...
No you have just been lucky perhaps.
Send the dashcam in and hope your luck continues.
Or don’t and just get on with your day.

normalbloke

7,703 posts

226 months

Friday 11th October
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mmm-five said:
Snitches get stitches biggrin
Council thread is waaaaay over there..>>>>>>>

TGCOTF-dewey

5,835 posts

62 months

Friday 11th October
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I wouldn't bother... Police have little interest IME.

I caught a guy - mat grey maserati 4x4 in yorkshire and if you're on here reading this, you're a ! - on my dash cam. He was utterly st faced and all over both sides of the road. He took one corner on completely the wrong side of the road and had to emergency stop as there was a tractor and trailor on that side. Had it been a motorbike, he'd have killed the rider... A car... Probably a very very nasty accident.

Police asked for a copy when my wife called 999 as we were driving to report him before he killed someone... The tractor was his third near miss in 5 miles. I followed it up, and they did fk all with it.

Jimjimhim

1,501 posts

7 months

Friday 11th October
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alscar said:
Red_Bat said:
Master Bean said:
There is no threshold. It's just guesswork. Police can prosecute however they see fit.
In effect there is, I've been regularly going at 75mph past speed cameras etc - never got a ticket...
No you have just been lucky perhaps.
Send the dashcam in and hope your luck continues.
Or don’t and just get on with your day.
Have you ever heard of anyone being done for 75 or under on a motorway when the limit is 70?

Peterpetrole

262 posts

4 months

Friday 11th October
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Bob T said:
Is your dashcam approved equipment and have a calibration to support its accuracy ? If not then it is just an indicated speed so they would need additional evidence for a speeding offence.
This ^^^^ if your description is accurate and you weren't swerving etc. then there's nothing to worry about, just send it in. Maybe count a known distance (marker posts) on your footage versus time to give a more accurate assurance that you won't get a ticket.

alscar

5,370 posts

220 months

Friday 11th October
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Jimjimhim said:
alscar said:
Red_Bat said:
Master Bean said:
There is no threshold. It's just guesswork. Police can prosecute however they see fit.
In effect there is, I've been regularly going at 75mph past speed cameras etc - never got a ticket...
No you have just been lucky perhaps.
Send the dashcam in and hope your luck continues.
Or don’t and just get on with your day.
Have you ever heard of anyone being done for 75 or under on a motorway when the limit is 70?
Not that I can recall but that wasn’t my point.
I also said perhaps.

Muzzer79

11,030 posts

194 months

Friday 11th October
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Ham_and_Jam said:
Red_Bat said:
Hello,
I recorded some seriously dangerous driving on a motorway which I'd like to submit to the police, for them to hopefully prosecute.

However, my footage includes my speed and while I was driving mostly at 75mph (under the 79 mph threshold), there are a few seconds where I go higher (not much, but technically above the threshold) when overtaking...

Can this be used against me and can I end up with a fine? Other than than I was by the book and the other driver is clearly the villain here, and I genuinely believe it is in the public interest for them to be prosecuted for such driving.

What would you do? Can I get in trouble for this small speeding infraction? Thank you very much.
You want them to prosecute the other party breaking the law, but not you breaking the law?
This.

People in glass houses and all that.