TV Licence - Yes I know...

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cobra kid

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5,240 posts

247 months

Thursday 26th September
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Just a general enquiry about word of mouth stuff.

We have paid for a TV Licence for our daughter at uni as she has a TV in her room. Sorted, but it's broken and can't actually pick any signal up.

She also has a laptop that she could theoretically watch live telly on so the licence covers that. Someone told my missus that if the laptop isn't physically plugged into the mains then you aren't actually "on the premises" as it were. I argued that you were as you were connected to that wifi set up.

Surely the wife's friend is wrong????


Jimjimhim

1,501 posts

7 months

Thursday 26th September
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I don't know, but the sooner they get rid of TV licensing the better!

GasEngineer

1,165 posts

69 months

Thursday 26th September
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cobra kid said:
Just a general enquiry about word of mouth stuff.

We have paid for a TV Licence for our daughter at uni as she has a TV in her room. Sorted, but it's broken and can't actually pick any signal up.

She also has a laptop that she could theoretically watch live telly on so the licence covers that. Someone told my missus that if the laptop isn't physically plugged into the mains then you aren't actually "on the premises" as it were. I argued that you were as you were connected to that wifi set up.

Surely the wife's friend is wrong????
TV Licencing said:


If you’re using a mobile device powered solely by its own internal batteries – like a smartphone, tablet or laptop – you will be covered by your home’s TV Licence, wherever you’re using it in the UK and Channel Islands.

However, if you’re away from home and plug one of these devices into the mains and use it to watch live on any channel, pay TV service or streaming service, or use BBC iPlayer*, you need to be covered by a separate TV Licence at that address (unless you’re in a vehicle or vessel like a train, car or boat).

Griffith4ever

4,754 posts

42 months

Thursday 26th September
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It does not matter if either the TV or the laptop can or can't be used to watch TV. If you DONT watch it then you don't need a license.

Tommo87

4,702 posts

120 months

Thursday 26th September
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cobra kid said:
Just a general enquiry about word of mouth stuff.

We have paid for a TV Licence for our daughter at uni as she has a TV in her room. Sorted, but it's broken and can't actually pick any signal up.

She also has a laptop that she could theoretically watch live telly on so the licence covers that. Someone told my missus that if the laptop isn't physically plugged into the mains then you aren't actually "on the premises" as it were. I argued that you were as you were connected to that wifi set up.

Surely the wife's friend is wrong????
Wife’s friend is wrong as they have stretched the ‘not connected’ logic too far.


Their swerve only works if they use someone else’s account and password.


Living away full time at University is not the same as a weekend away in a hotel. No matter how many people suggest you might be ok as the rules don’t specifically mention university. Everyone knows what the rules mean,





Edited by Tommo87 on Thursday 26th September 08:10

MustangGT

12,268 posts

287 months

Thursday 26th September
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Tommo87 said:
Wife’s friend is wrong as they have stretched the ‘not connected’ logic too far.


Their swerve only works if they use someone else’s account and password.


Living away full time at University is not the same as a weekend away in a hotel. No matter how many people suggest you might be ok as the rules don’t specifically mention university. Everyone knows what the rules mean,





Edited by Tommo87 on Thursday 26th September 08:10
I suggest you read GasEngineer's post two above yours. This actually quotes the legislation which says it is fine.

martinbiz

3,369 posts

152 months

Thursday 26th September
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Tommo87 said:
Wife’s friend is wrong as they have stretched the ‘not connected’ logic too far.


Their swerve only works if they use someone else’s account and password.


Living away full time at University is not the same as a weekend away in a hotel. No matter how many people suggest you might be ok as the rules don’t specifically mention university. Everyone knows what the rules mean,





Edited by Tommo87 on Thursday 26th September 08:10
"if you’re using a mobile device powered solely by its own internal batteries – like a smartphone, tablet or laptop – you will be covered by your home’s TV Licence, wherever you’re using it in the UK and Channel Islands"

Does not mention how you receive a signal or how long you are away, just that it must not be plugged in while you are watching

Seems pretty clear to me


Glassman

23,107 posts

222 months

Thursday 26th September
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Jimjimhim said:
I don't know, but the sooner they get rid of TV licensing the better!
A TV Licence costs £169.50 for colour, and £57.00 for black and white.

MitchT

16,223 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th September
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So, basically, dump the TV licence, dump the TV and watch on your laptop. If there's a knock on the door, pull the cable out. Otherwise, crack on!

vikingaero

11,190 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th September
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MitchT said:
So, basically, dump the TV licence, dump the TV and watch on your laptop. If there's a knock on the door, pull the cable out. Otherwise, crack on!
Both my 2 girls don't watch TV or iPlayer, but I told them and their flatmates to slam the door in the face of anyone asking about a licence. And if for some reason they got into the communal areas, deny them access to rooms, and if they ask for names, give fake but believable names - no Mickey Mouse or Wan King Hard.

martinbiz

3,369 posts

152 months

Thursday 26th September
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MitchT said:
So, basically, dump the TV licence, dump the TV and watch on your laptop. If there's a knock on the door, pull the cable out. Otherwise, crack on!
I think you have completely misunderstood the post

MitchT

16,223 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th September
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Really? I was replying to the suggestion that the device doesn't need its own licence if it's not plugged in to the mains, which is what was eluded to in the original post.

cobra kid

Original Poster:

5,240 posts

247 months

Thursday 26th September
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MitchT said:
Really? I was replying to the suggestion that the device doesn't need its own licence if it's not plugged in to the mains, which is what was eluded to in the original post.
We have a licence and the telly will get sorted. I'm happy with all that. It was just the weird bit about whether you are plugged into the mains or not.

martinbiz

3,369 posts

152 months

Thursday 26th September
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MitchT said:
Really? I was replying to the suggestion that the device doesn't need its own licence if it's not plugged in to the mains, which is what was eluded to in the original post.
Perhaps I misunderstood when you said you can dump the TV licence, you can't

BertBert

19,677 posts

218 months

Thursday 26th September
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cobra kid said:
We have a licence and the telly will get sorted. I'm happy with all that. It was just the weird bit about whether you are plugged into the mains or not.
The unplugged thing is in the circumstance when you have a licence at home and are away from home with your mobile device.

Jimjimhim

1,501 posts

7 months

Thursday 26th September
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Glassman said:
Jimjimhim said:
I don't know, but the sooner they get rid of TV licensing the better!
A TV Licence costs £169.50 for colour, and £57.00 for black and white.
I know how much it costs, but thanks anyway.

milesgiles

1,019 posts

36 months

Thursday 26th September
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No offense but it’s because of people like op the license exists. I’m dumping mine at next renewal in December. It’s time has gone

cobra kid

Original Poster:

5,240 posts

247 months

Thursday 26th September
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milesgiles said:
No offense but it’s because of people like op the license exists. I’m dumping mine at next renewal in December. It’s time has gone
And you will be absolutely fine with any form of punishment naturally. Got it. I'm the problem.

Mandat

4,002 posts

245 months

Thursday 26th September
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MitchT said:
Really? I was replying to the suggestion that the device doesn't need its own licence if it's not plugged in to the mains, which is what was eluded to in the original post.
Your home licence will cover the laptop use, if the laptop is not plugged in at your temporary location.

The point is that you still need a licence at your home location to be able to use the laptop remotely.

MickC

1,041 posts

265 months

Thursday 26th September
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Mandat said:
Your home licence will cover the laptop use, if the laptop is not plugged in at your temporary location.

The point is that you still need a licence at your home location to be able to use the laptop remotely.
So the question here is: Where is a students home location?