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President Merkin

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4,297 posts

26 months

Sunday 22nd September
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What's the score with this sort of thing? I had an email from Amazon welcoming me to Prime music, three months free, £10.99/mth thereafter. I thought it was spam but checked my account & sure enough I've been enrolled as a subscriber.

I haven't been near Amazon in months, nor has my account been hacked, so I can only assume I've been subscribed to a paying service without asking. This seems slippery on the face of it, no?

Good little earner if you do this a few million times & rely on people not noticing an email or assuming it's spam.

Sheepshanks

34,951 posts

126 months

Sunday 22nd September
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Have you got an Alexa device?

OldGermanHeaps

4,202 posts

185 months

Sunday 22nd September
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Amazon have form for stuff like this, if you turn on pin protection on purchases, and amazon force a background update on your device you will notice often pin protection on purchases has magically switched itself back off, but if an inadvertent purchase happens after that its your fault because reasons.

President Merkin

Original Poster:

4,297 posts

26 months

Sunday 22nd September
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Sheepshanks said:
Have you got an Alexa device?
No, nothing like that. Had an Amazon account for years but barely ever use it at all & definitely not in the past year.

Mad Maximus

473 posts

10 months

Sunday 22nd September
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We had something similar with Amazon. Complained and got refunded.

Robertb

2,069 posts

245 months

Monday 23rd September
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You got kids or anyone else in the household who listens to music on Alexa? If you ask for certain songs then it will offer to play it if you sign up for a trial subscription, and it doesn't ask for a PIN or anything.

President Merkin

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4,297 posts

26 months

Monday 23rd September
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Yes but they're obsessed with Spotify & have no access to my Amazon account. It's really not someone accidentally activating something in my account, I promise you. Is it possible Amazon push subs onto people without permission?

Sheepshanks

34,951 posts

126 months

Monday 23rd September
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President Merkin said:
Yes but they're obsessed with Spotify & have no access to my Amazon account. It's really not someone accidentally activating something in my account, I promise you. Is it possible Amazon push subs onto people without permission?
I asked you about Alexa and you said no.

As Robertb says,, if there are Alexa devices in your household then anyone could sign you up without realising what they're doing.

I suppose anything is possible, but I really can't imagine Amazon signing people up with no external input whatsoever.

witko999

662 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd September
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A month or two ago I got an email welcoming me to Amazon Prime. I thought it was spam at first, but checked my bank account and had indeed had the monthly cost debited. Like you, I have an Amazon account but pretty much never use it, although I have in the past used the 1 month free Prime.

I checked that nobody else in the house had accidentally signed up or bought something on my account (they hadn't), and then cancelled it. I got the entire refund but was confused by how it happened.

Nothing has happened since, but perhaps this is some aggressive (and surely illegal?) new sales tactic.

Glassman

23,106 posts

222 months

Monday 23rd September
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President Merkin said:
What's the score with this sort of thing? I had an email from Amazon welcoming me to Prime music, three months free, £10.99/mth thereafter. I thought it was spam but checked my account & sure enough I've been enrolled as a subscriber.

I haven't been near Amazon in months, nor has my account been hacked, so I can only assume I've been subscribed to a paying service without asking. This seems slippery on the face of it, no?

Good little earner if you do this a few million times & rely on people not noticing an email or assuming it's spam.
I don't have a Prime account but I've fallen into what I feel is a trap several times on clicking the 'confirm order' button. There are two, and the one that looks like the one you want is the trap to get you to trial Prime "FREE".

Amazon make a lot of money and I often wonder how much of it comes or has come from tricking customers.

STe_rsv4

783 posts

105 months

Monday 23rd September
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Sheepshanks said:
President Merkin said:
Yes but they're obsessed with Spotify & have no access to my Amazon account. It's really not someone accidentally activating something in my account, I promise you. Is it possible Amazon push subs onto people without permission?
I asked you about Alexa and you said no.

As Robertb says,, if there are Alexa devices in your household then anyone could sign you up without realising what they're doing.

I suppose anything is possible, but I really can't imagine Amazon signing people up with no external input whatsoever.
I remember being in the bathroom and hearing my 2 year old at the time shouting for Alexa to play " hulk smash" or something along those lines. I then overheard Alexa mention something about upgrading to play this song and he immediately replied "yes".

I immediately checked my account to see that an additional £10.99 was taken out! got straight on amazon and got refunded after explaining the circumstances but still thought it was unbelievable that a 2 year old could upgrade my account! you have to disable "voice upgrades" or something along those lines.

119

9,461 posts

43 months

Monday 23rd September
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Glassman said:
President Merkin said:
What's the score with this sort of thing? I had an email from Amazon welcoming me to Prime music, three months free, £10.99/mth thereafter. I thought it was spam but checked my account & sure enough I've been enrolled as a subscriber.

I haven't been near Amazon in months, nor has my account been hacked, so I can only assume I've been subscribed to a paying service without asking. This seems slippery on the face of it, no?

Good little earner if you do this a few million times & rely on people not noticing an email or assuming it's spam.
I don't have a Prime account but I've fallen into what I feel is a trap several times on clicking the 'confirm order' button. There are two, and the one that looks like the one you want is the trap to get you to trial Prime "FREE".

Amazon make a lot of money and I often wonder how much of it comes or has come from tricking customers.
People keep banging on about that but even if you did inadvertently subscribe, the emails that follow would alert you to what has just happened.

Jamescrs

4,855 posts

72 months

Monday 23rd September
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STe_rsv4 said:
I remember being in the bathroom and hearing my 2 year old at the time shouting for Alexa to play " hulk smash" or something along those lines. I then overheard Alexa mention something about upgrading to play this song and he immediately replied "yes".

I immediately checked my account to see that an additional £10.99 was taken out! got straight on amazon and got refunded after explaining the circumstances but still thought it was unbelievable that a 2 year old could upgrade my account! you have to disable "voice upgrades" or something along those lines.
Something very similar happened to me where my daughter wanted a particular song on Alexa and inadvertently signed me up for Amazon Music , completely wrong that this can happen

Edit- Just realised it is possible to turn off purchasing by voice on Alexa, hopefully this stops subscriptions too

Edited by Jamescrs on Monday 23 September 13:05

President Merkin

Original Poster:

4,297 posts

26 months

Monday 23rd September
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Sheepshanks said:
I asked you about Alexa and you said no.

As Robertb says,, if there are Alexa devices in your household then anyone could sign you up without realising what they're doing.

I suppose anything is possible, but I really can't imagine Amazon signing people up with no external input whatsoever.
confused I don't have any Alex devices in the house. Not sure how you've worked out anything to the contrary.

Sheepshanks

34,951 posts

126 months

Monday 23rd September
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President Merkin said:
confused I don't have any Alex devices in the house. Not sure how you've worked out anything to the contrary.
I was going off your answer of "yes" to another poster's question "You got kids or anyone else in the household who listens to music on Alexa?"

President Merkin

Original Poster:

4,297 posts

26 months

Monday 23rd September
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Since there's no Alexa devices in the house, again - no. Will this take much longer?

119

9,461 posts

43 months

Monday 23rd September
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Speak to Amazon.

Sheepshanks

34,951 posts

126 months

Monday 23rd September
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President Merkin said:
Since there's no Alexa devices in the house, again - no. Will this take much longer?
So how do your kids listen to music on Alexa?

President Merkin

Original Poster:

4,297 posts

26 months

Monday 23rd September
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Sheepshanks said:
So how do your kids listen to music on Alexa?
They don't. You are coming across as obsessed with Alexa. There is no Alexa here, no Firestick, nothing at all other than a work laptop to which the kids have no access.

I am alright Jack

3,845 posts

150 months

Monday 23rd September
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Are you sure there's no Alexa?