High level security clearance
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DV is very intrusive.
They will interview friends and family and colleagues. They will ask them about your tastes in porn and any kinks you might have. Any use of drugs or any addiction will be noted, possibly exclude you from clearance.
Your financial background will be scrutinised.
You will undergo an interview that will last several hours.
There's a list of countries you cannot travel to. There's a list of countries you'll just get a briefing before you go.
It's mandatory that you post about your DV clearance all over LinkedIn, despite being told not to do so.
They will interview friends and family and colleagues. They will ask them about your tastes in porn and any kinks you might have. Any use of drugs or any addiction will be noted, possibly exclude you from clearance.
Your financial background will be scrutinised.
You will undergo an interview that will last several hours.
There's a list of countries you cannot travel to. There's a list of countries you'll just get a briefing before you go.
It's mandatory that you post about your DV clearance all over LinkedIn, despite being told not to do so.
It's an integrity check. You'll need to provide a lot of detail on your finances, and they'll ask about your mental health, family, any history of abuse, drug use. They'll ask for your social media account details.
It's extensive and intrusive but it's to check you're a low risk of being blackmailed/bribed and a low risk of committing fraud.
Nothing to worry about. Or is there?
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It's extensive and intrusive but it's to check you're a low risk of being blackmailed/bribed and a low risk of committing fraud.
Nothing to worry about. Or is there?
.Much of the above, really. The key thing is not to tell porkies so if you like botty sex whilst being flagellated and tied to a donkey - tell them. You'll likely not get a DV if you try and hide stuff. The big thing is to see if you're blackmailable, if you're skint and have large debts that's a properly red flag. Being a married to a foreigner can really slow things down as well.
There's no real right or wrong with the process unless you're a complete and utter liability, just be honest and it'll be fine. I had an additional element to my DV and whilst I didn't have to bend over and have a torch shined up my exhaust, it's still pretty in-depth.
Oh yes, don't forget to plaster it all over LinkedIn, that's a given.
There's no real right or wrong with the process unless you're a complete and utter liability, just be honest and it'll be fine. I had an additional element to my DV and whilst I didn't have to bend over and have a torch shined up my exhaust, it's still pretty in-depth.
Oh yes, don't forget to plaster it all over LinkedIn, that's a given.
Vetting for DV is very intrusive. Lots of information here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/united-...
As others have said, you’ll need to be very honest in your application and interview (normally about 3-4 hours). The vetting people generally don’t ask questions they don’t already know the answer to… so it’s an integrity check as much as anything.
You’ll have to do the online application and provide a lot of background information, ID documents, financial documents, not just for you, but anyone you live with or are in a relationship with. It’s not a quick process, either.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/united-...
As others have said, you’ll need to be very honest in your application and interview (normally about 3-4 hours). The vetting people generally don’t ask questions they don’t already know the answer to… so it’s an integrity check as much as anything.
You’ll have to do the online application and provide a lot of background information, ID documents, financial documents, not just for you, but anyone you live with or are in a relationship with. It’s not a quick process, either.
When I did my DV clearance interview about 20 years ago all I remember us talking about was care home fees and how to avoid them. Maybe the fact I was already cleared to secret made it easier.
Mind you, I was a little worried they’d ask my neighbours about the sheep I lived with 😀
Mind you, I was a little worried they’d ask my neighbours about the sheep I lived with 😀
uknick said:
When I did my DV clearance interview about 20 years ago all I remember us talking about was care home fees and how to avoid them. Maybe the fact I was already cleared to secret made it easier.
Mind you, I was a little worried they’d ask my neighbours about the sheep I lived with ??
The interviewers are very good at putting you at ease... so that you drop your guard and spill the beans Mind you, I was a little worried they’d ask my neighbours about the sheep I lived with ??
Just be open, honest and you’ll have no worries. I had the old Postive Vetting (PV). Which DV appears to have replaced in/around 1994. I subsequently had Extended Positive Vetting (EPV) as my role/responsibilities changed.
My security clearance interviewer was en ex Metropolitan Police Inspector. I was still at school, and had a speeding fine/ticket occur in between application, and the interview. He already knew about it, and was more than happy that I’d raised it as showed I had nothing to hide etc.
This was also the days when homosexuality barred you from jobs - asked whether I was / had been etc. These days as long as you’re open about it. (Scandinavian countries were miles ahead of us and could take their partner on postings overseas etc)
He also saw me get into a bit of a punch up on a rugby match earlier in the day - my headmaster was one of my referees, and brought the Inspector out to watch the game after he’d done his interview ….
Obviously these days the whole social media is another channel they will look at.
TLDR
Best of luck, Nothing ventured, nothing gained etc.
Edited to add this quote from the link Dibble provided …. Not for snowflakes in short
“Due to the nature of the discussion, the interview can be intrusive and some individuals may find themselves distressed or triggered during or following the interview. Please see the list of organisations you can contact for support at any point.
FFS ….
My security clearance interviewer was en ex Metropolitan Police Inspector. I was still at school, and had a speeding fine/ticket occur in between application, and the interview. He already knew about it, and was more than happy that I’d raised it as showed I had nothing to hide etc.
This was also the days when homosexuality barred you from jobs - asked whether I was / had been etc. These days as long as you’re open about it. (Scandinavian countries were miles ahead of us and could take their partner on postings overseas etc)
He also saw me get into a bit of a punch up on a rugby match earlier in the day - my headmaster was one of my referees, and brought the Inspector out to watch the game after he’d done his interview ….
Obviously these days the whole social media is another channel they will look at.
TLDR
Best of luck, Nothing ventured, nothing gained etc.
Edited to add this quote from the link Dibble provided …. Not for snowflakes in short
“Due to the nature of the discussion, the interview can be intrusive and some individuals may find themselves distressed or triggered during or following the interview. Please see the list of organisations you can contact for support at any point.
FFS ….
Edited by seyre1972 on Wednesday 14th August 22:51
Edited by seyre1972 on Wednesday 14th August 22:58
Edited by seyre1972 on Wednesday 14th August 23:00
It's all very civilised. Mine was done over a few cups of tea whilst my then wife went out for the afternoon. As long as you're candid about everything you'll be absolutely fine. But expect some very up front questions; particularly about your sexual proclivities and finances. They won't always know the answers to the questions they're asking there and then but you can be absolutely positive they're going to go away and check yours.
They will definitely check what internet sites you use for instance....
It's based around stopping you from being susceptible to blackmail. So if a foreign actor or state gets in touch with you and wants you to do something for them or else they're going to leak that you have gambling debts or regularly see prostitutes; you're less of a risk because you're employer already knows.
They will definitely check what internet sites you use for instance....
It's based around stopping you from being susceptible to blackmail. So if a foreign actor or state gets in touch with you and wants you to do something for them or else they're going to leak that you have gambling debts or regularly see prostitutes; you're less of a risk because you're employer already knows.
Shambler said:
I have a job interview where they will ask if I am happy to have Developed Vetting (DV) checks conducted. I have been told by some people this can be very intrusive. Has any one had a detailed vetting interview? and if so what sort of questions did they ask? Also I believe that you are not allowed to travel to certain countries and obtain permission before travelling abroad. Any insight would be helpful.
Off the top of my head the problem countries were the usual ones in the middle east, Russia and a few others like North Korea. You can travel abroad to places other than those you just have to let them know you've booked a holiday to Tenerife before you go.
Roofless Toothless said:
I take it incoming members of parliament are not subjected to this process.
Probably not, but MPs per se don’t have access to the kind of material DV is protecting. And you can take it that the ones appointed to the Intelligence and Security and Defence select committees will have undergone something like this, and possibly one or two others.
seyre1972 said:
“Due to the nature of the discussion, the interview can be intrusive and some individuals may find themselves distressed or triggered during or following the interview. Please see the list of organisations you can contact for support at any point.
FFS ….
I don’t really get why this is bad, the process is necessary for security but that doesn’t mean it needs to be an ordeal. What’s wrong in supporting people going through the process by pointing out resources they can use for support? FFS ….
Edited by PlywoodPascal on Thursday 15th August 07:54
psi310398 said:
Probably not, but MPs per se don’t have access to the kind of material DV is protecting.
And you can take it that the ones appointed to the Intelligence and Security and Defence select committees will have undergone something like this, and possibly one or two others.
All MPs do have to complete a security questionnaire though which has the question: "Have you ever been involved in terrorism, sabotage, espionage or actions designed to overthrow a democratic country?"And you can take it that the ones appointed to the Intelligence and Security and Defence select committees will have undergone something like this, and possibly one or two others.
I always wondered how Sinn Fein MPs answered that one...
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