Parking Ticket
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Son in law lives in South Korea and hired a car from the airport using his UK driving licence… but my address. He returned to SK over a week ago and a parking ticket has just arrived for an area in Milton Keynes, from Euro Car Parks. He was there during that time so more than likely he exceeded the time limit, but as the ticket originally went to the airport car hire firm, the option to pay £60, instead of a £100 has now expired.
Any advice on best course of action? looking on line there are a few suggests to ignore it, but as it’s my home address I’m not sure I want to get into that.
Any advice on best course of action? looking on line there are a few suggests to ignore it, but as it’s my home address I’m not sure I want to get into that.
The ticket shouldn't have gone up to the full amount before the person who was driving has received it.
I received a parking ticket (later cancelled) via a car hire company but they wrote to me directly as usually they have the option to state who was the driver. But it arrived at the original amount. Don't ignore it though, these firms have more power than they used to where you could just bin them and think no more of it.
Does it state on the ticket what the offence was?
I received a parking ticket (later cancelled) via a car hire company but they wrote to me directly as usually they have the option to state who was the driver. But it arrived at the original amount. Don't ignore it though, these firms have more power than they used to where you could just bin them and think no more of it.
Does it state on the ticket what the offence was?
tony wright said:
South Korea is 8hrs ahead of the UK so trying to see where to go with it. He only returns to the UK once a year and it will be another ten years before he returns on a full time basis, if at all. He’s tempted to ignore it, but it’s my address I’m worried about.
If it's in your name and he ignores it then it could be problematic. Could give his SK address and then let him ignore it though! I may have misread if that was the original intention.
I doubt very much if they'd bother chasing him in where he's living now if you did that.
tony wright said:
but it’s my address I’m worried about.
And so you should be! It that address that the debt collectors will be sent to.tony wright said:
He’s tempted to ignore it,
So he's obviously a straight and decent guy then, even though he's fully aware you are going to get the grief.Tell him just to pay it! And in future, don't let him use your address again.
tony wright said:
Son in law lives in South Korea and hired a car from the airport using his UK driving licence… but my address. He returned to SK over a week ago and a parking ticket has just arrived for an area in Milton Keynes, from Euro Car Parks. He was there during that time so more than likely he exceeded the time limit, but as the ticket originally went to the airport car hire firm, the option to pay £60, instead of a £100 has now expired.
Any advice on best course of action? looking on line there are a few suggests to ignore it, but as it’s my home address I’m not sure I want to get into that.
Send them the contact details (name, address etc) of the driver and wish them luck in their recovery of the charge. There is nothing in your name Any advice on best course of action? looking on line there are a few suggests to ignore it, but as it’s my home address I’m not sure I want to get into that.
tony wright said:
Son in law lives in South Korea and hired a car from the airport using his UK driving licence… but my address. He returned to SK over a week ago and a parking ticket has just arrived for an area in Milton Keynes, from Euro Car Parks. He was there during that time so more than likely he exceeded the time limit, but as the ticket originally went to the airport car hire firm, the option to pay £60, instead of a £100 has now expired.
Any advice on best course of action? looking on line there are a few suggests to ignore it, but as it’s my home address I’m not sure I want to get into that.
Private parking companies do not have the same powers as a local authority, his name has been given by the hire company, not yours, and he does not live at your address, unless he is on the electoral register at your address, you can deny any knowledge.Any advice on best course of action? looking on line there are a few suggests to ignore it, but as it’s my home address I’m not sure I want to get into that.
The right thing to do, is for him to pay it, just to save you any hassle, if he wants to argue the toss over 60 or 100 that is up to him.I would make it clear to him this is troubling you. It is hardly the end of the world amount.
I would not get involved as a third party, or let them know you know him, personaly, if he is not forthcoming, I would send it back and inform them the person does not live at your address, unless of course he is on the electoral register at your address. Then get him to stop using your address.
Sebring440 said:
tony wright said:
but it’s my address I’m worried about.
And so you should be! It that address that the debt collectors will be sent to.I'd be inclined to write back to them and provide his address and let them chase up with him. Up to him if he chooses to ignore it though.
The ticket I had for a hire car was just them telling the parking firm who was driving, they won't just pay up and charge you as it's up to you to deal with. I didn't get an admin charge though where some hire firms will charge you.
I don’t understand the problem here. The op’s son ‘hired a car from the airport using his UK driving licence… but my address’. The op has zero responsibility for the charge/fine.
Just tell the parking firm that he lives in Korea, give them the address if you like.
Why on earth would you pay them? There’s no contract between the op & the parking firm.
Just tell the parking firm that he lives in Korea, give them the address if you like.
Why on earth would you pay them? There’s no contract between the op & the parking firm.
In clear terms ...
Someone who is not you, and does not live at your address, got a parking ticket in a car that is in no way linked to you.
Am I correct?
In which case, I would advise the parking company that the driver is not resident at your address. That's the beginning, middle and end of any obligations you have. If it's worth their while, they will conduct their own searches to try and locate the driver. The only thing here which might muddy the water is if your son-in-law uses your address as a 'correspondence address' and so there is a paper trail linking him to your address. Then it might be wise to volunteer more information to the parking company to avoid them believing he is still resident at your address, and continue to pursue.
It sounds like you have let the person involved know. That's nice of you, as it allows that person to make an informed decision on how they want to handle the situation. However, their decision is none of your concern (again - with the caveat that there's nothing linking them to your address).
My ex likes to use my address for things like this. If I spot her name as I'm opening letters (I live alone - therefore in my simple mind, all letters I receive are my letters and don't have a habit of double checking before opening), I'll return the unopened letter to sender. If I don't spot it, I get to find out what shenanigans she's been up to and make a mental note to pay closer attention to the name on envelopes for a few weeks so I can catch future ones before opening, and return to sender. It's been nearly 3 years now, and nothing has escalated beyond letter writing. The last one I accidentally opened (about a month ago) was for "you could not pay your toll fee at the point of travel when you used the M6 toll road" and had 'costs added' to take the amount owing to just under £100. Other than the fact you are likely far fonder of your son-in-law than I am of my ex, from a legal standpoint our situations are the same.
Someone who is not you, and does not live at your address, got a parking ticket in a car that is in no way linked to you.
Am I correct?
In which case, I would advise the parking company that the driver is not resident at your address. That's the beginning, middle and end of any obligations you have. If it's worth their while, they will conduct their own searches to try and locate the driver. The only thing here which might muddy the water is if your son-in-law uses your address as a 'correspondence address' and so there is a paper trail linking him to your address. Then it might be wise to volunteer more information to the parking company to avoid them believing he is still resident at your address, and continue to pursue.
It sounds like you have let the person involved know. That's nice of you, as it allows that person to make an informed decision on how they want to handle the situation. However, their decision is none of your concern (again - with the caveat that there's nothing linking them to your address).
My ex likes to use my address for things like this. If I spot her name as I'm opening letters (I live alone - therefore in my simple mind, all letters I receive are my letters and don't have a habit of double checking before opening), I'll return the unopened letter to sender. If I don't spot it, I get to find out what shenanigans she's been up to and make a mental note to pay closer attention to the name on envelopes for a few weeks so I can catch future ones before opening, and return to sender. It's been nearly 3 years now, and nothing has escalated beyond letter writing. The last one I accidentally opened (about a month ago) was for "you could not pay your toll fee at the point of travel when you used the M6 toll road" and had 'costs added' to take the amount owing to just under £100. Other than the fact you are likely far fonder of your son-in-law than I am of my ex, from a legal standpoint our situations are the same.
Is life really that difficult for some people? Depending how close you are to your son in law, I would
1) tell the son in law you have received this correspondence, and you will return it with his correct address.
2) return it to sender, as ‘not known at this address’ ( which can mean to be ‘known, but not at this address’, or ‘not known at all’).
I assume that you have the advantage of a different last name.
1) tell the son in law you have received this correspondence, and you will return it with his correct address.
2) return it to sender, as ‘not known at this address’ ( which can mean to be ‘known, but not at this address’, or ‘not known at all’).
I assume that you have the advantage of a different last name.
Edited by Pica-Pica on Tuesday 6th August 16:12
Rotary Potato said:
In clear terms ...
Someone who is not you, and does not live at your address, got a parking ticket in a car that is in no way linked to you.
Am I correct?
In which case, I would advise the parking company that the driver is not resident at your address. That's the beginning, middle and end of any obligations you have. If it's worth their while, they will conduct their own searches to try and locate the driver. The only thing here which might muddy the water is if your son-in-law uses your address as a 'correspondence address' and so there is a paper trail linking him to your address. Then it might be wise to volunteer more information to the parking company to avoid them believing he is still resident at your address, and continue to pursue.
It sounds like you have let the person involved know. That's nice of you, as it allows that person to make an informed decision on how they want to handle the situation. However, their decision is none of your concern (again - with the caveat that there's nothing linking them to your address).
My ex likes to use my address for things like this. If I spot her name as I'm opening letters (I live alone - therefore in my simple mind, all letters I receive are my letters and don't have a habit of double checking before opening), I'll return the unopened letter to sender. If I don't spot it, I get to find out what shenanigans she's been up to and make a mental note to pay closer attention to the name on envelopes for a few weeks so I can catch future ones before opening, and return to sender. It's been nearly 3 years now, and nothing has escalated beyond letter writing. The last one I accidentally opened (about a month ago) was for "you could not pay your toll fee at the point of travel when you used the M6 toll road" and had 'costs added' to take the amount owing to just under £100. Other than the fact you are likely far fonder of your son-in-law than I am of my ex, from a legal standpoint our situations are the same.
In clear terms….Someone who is not you, and does not live at your address, got a parking ticket in a car that is in no way linked to you.
Am I correct?
In which case, I would advise the parking company that the driver is not resident at your address. That's the beginning, middle and end of any obligations you have. If it's worth their while, they will conduct their own searches to try and locate the driver. The only thing here which might muddy the water is if your son-in-law uses your address as a 'correspondence address' and so there is a paper trail linking him to your address. Then it might be wise to volunteer more information to the parking company to avoid them believing he is still resident at your address, and continue to pursue.
It sounds like you have let the person involved know. That's nice of you, as it allows that person to make an informed decision on how they want to handle the situation. However, their decision is none of your concern (again - with the caveat that there's nothing linking them to your address).
My ex likes to use my address for things like this. If I spot her name as I'm opening letters (I live alone - therefore in my simple mind, all letters I receive are my letters and don't have a habit of double checking before opening), I'll return the unopened letter to sender. If I don't spot it, I get to find out what shenanigans she's been up to and make a mental note to pay closer attention to the name on envelopes for a few weeks so I can catch future ones before opening, and return to sender. It's been nearly 3 years now, and nothing has escalated beyond letter writing. The last one I accidentally opened (about a month ago) was for "you could not pay your toll fee at the point of travel when you used the M6 toll road" and had 'costs added' to take the amount owing to just under £100. Other than the fact you are likely far fonder of your son-in-law than I am of my ex, from a legal standpoint our situations are the same.
You mean lie about the important bits and ignore the odd fact or two. Such as the driver being a relative or giving permission to use his address.
Am I correct?
Tommo87 said:
In clear terms….
You mean lie about the important bits and ignore the odd fact or two. Such as the driver being a relative or giving permission to use his address.
Am I correct?
What would he be lying about?You mean lie about the important bits and ignore the odd fact or two. Such as the driver being a relative or giving permission to use his address.
Am I correct?
"they do not live at this address" - I see no lie there.
If you mean not volunteering to a private company the fact that the person involved is married to a child of the OP, I'm not aware that the OP would be obliged to do that. I could be wrong.
I'm also not aware of the OP confirming that permission was given to use his address. That appears to be something you've extrapolated. It may well be the case, but it definitely isn't stated in the OP's posts. It could just as easily be the case that the SIL went ahead and did it and only retrospectively told the OP ... "hey, they asked for a UK address, so I used yours - hope that's OK?".
It may also be that I'm a little salty towards parking companies at the moment, as copped a £60 ticket visiting my girlfriend the other week. Entirely my fault - I knew the process is to grab a visitor pass as soon as you arrive, but it was late and I was lazy so I waited until the next morning, and got a nice letter informing me of the error of my ways a few days later. I've paid up, it's a fair cop, but it didn't leave me with a lot of love towards parking companies. So I'm happy to accept that my advice is currently on the belligerent end of the scale!
I'd say that my advice could be summed up as "Tell no lies. Don't say anything that you don't have to".
Tommo87 said:
In clear terms….
You mean lie about the important bits and ignore the odd fact or two. Such as the driver being a relative or giving permission to use his address.
Am I correct?
I don’t see anyone advocating lies. The op simply needs to point out that the charge/fine does not relate to him. No need to say anything more.You mean lie about the important bits and ignore the odd fact or two. Such as the driver being a relative or giving permission to use his address.
Am I correct?
bad company said:
I don’t understand the problem here. The op’s son ‘hired a car from the airport using his UK driving licence… but my address’. The op has zero responsibility for the charge/fine.
Just tell the parking firm that he lives in Korea, give them the address if you like.
Why on earth would you pay them? There’s no contract between the op & the parking firm.
The OP has not said if he is on the electoral register at his address, unless I missed it. that makes a difference.Just tell the parking firm that he lives in Korea, give them the address if you like.
Why on earth would you pay them? There’s no contract between the op & the parking firm.
Otherwise you are correct, if he will not pay it, the OP has no liability for it.
TBH in this situation I would just pay it, not to trouble anyone else.
Edit , The person at fault, not the OP.
anyoldcardave said:
bad company said:
I don’t understand the problem here. The op’s son ‘hired a car from the airport using his UK driving licence… but my address’. The op has zero responsibility for the charge/fine.
Just tell the parking firm that he lives in Korea, give them the address if you like.
Why on earth would you pay them? There’s no contract between the op & the parking firm.
The OP has not said if he is on the electoral register at his address, unless I missed it. that makes a difference.Just tell the parking firm that he lives in Korea, give them the address if you like.
Why on earth would you pay them? There’s no contract between the op & the parking firm.
Otherwise you are correct, if he will not pay it, the OP has no liability for it.
TBH in this situation I would just pay it, not to trouble anyone else.
Edit , The person at fault, not the OP.
anyoldcardave said:
bad company said:
I don’t understand the problem here. The op’s son ‘hired a car from the airport using his UK driving licence… but my address’. The op has zero responsibility for the charge/fine.
Just tell the parking firm that he lives in Korea, give them the address if you like.
Why on earth would you pay them? There’s no contract between the op & the parking firm.
The OP has not said if he is on the electoral register at his address, unless I missed it. that makes a difference.Just tell the parking firm that he lives in Korea, give them the address if you like.
Why on earth would you pay them? There’s no contract between the op & the parking firm.
Otherwise you are correct, if he will not pay it, the OP has no liability for it.
TBH in this situation I would just pay it, not to trouble anyone else.
Edit , The person at fault, not the OP.
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