How many cops to arrest one middle aged woman in Stoke

How many cops to arrest one middle aged woman in Stoke

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rallycross

Original Poster:

13,268 posts

244 months

Saturday 3rd August
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Interesting to hear your thoughts on this arrest?

(Sorry not Stoke was Preston).

Don’t know the background to why she was arrested but looks very heavy handed by the police


https://youtu.be/QaLHKel-qHc?si=39gWhJKOXOq9S6wd

Edited by rallycross on Saturday 3rd August 18:43

ED209

5,854 posts

251 months

Saturday 3rd August
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Doesn’t look heavy handed at all, most of those cops are trying to keep their colleagues safe, it’s far safer for all involved for a few officers to take control of someone who isn’t cooperating than for one officer to end up rolling around on the floor with them, far less risk of injury to both sides.

Heathwood

2,797 posts

209 months

Saturday 3rd August
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Without the background and reason for arrest you have no context to make any sort of judgement. Nothing obviously wrong at a glance though. Number of officers present is largely irrelevant from a UoF point of view.

BertBert

19,681 posts

218 months

Saturday 3rd August
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Also looks like the man in the white t shirt is trying to get involved in some way too.

Alex Z

1,506 posts

83 months

Saturday 3rd August
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Nothing to see here. It’s far safer for everyone to have multiple officers arrest one suspect than end up with a brawl that escalated.

irc

8,190 posts

143 months

Saturday 3rd August
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Looks fine two me. Two cops cuffing someone who is resisting. Third cop helping by holding suspects head or shoulders. Remaining cops keeping crowd away.

I assume OP has never had to arrest someone who didn't want to be arrested.

Greendubber

13,818 posts

210 months

Saturday 3rd August
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rallycross said:
Interesting to hear your thoughts on this arrest?

Don’t know the background to why she was arrested but looks very heavy handed by the police


https://youtu.be/QaLHKel-qHc?si=39gWhJKOXOq9S6wd
Absolutely shocking.

Maybe they should have sent the biggest cop they have to simply knock him clean out and then place his lifeless arms into handcuffs before dragging him off.

E-bmw

9,965 posts

159 months

Saturday 3rd August
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As usual lets all get up on our high horse without knowing even a quarter of the story!

Oh, and by the way lets all get our phones out to post on feckberk about the injustice....... Whatever it is!

This is exactly what causes and then exacerbates social unrest issues like we are currently having on a daily basis.

Hull is currently pretty much in lock down because some feckwit put on social media that the stabbings of those beautiful young girls was down to an asylum seeker.

Why does that bring the need for riots in Hull, I have no idea but it is now affecting lots of people because of idiots on social media.

rallycross

Original Poster:

13,268 posts

244 months

Saturday 3rd August
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Unfortunately I don’t know any more details on why she was arrested just looked very heavy handed to me.

Tommo87

4,703 posts

120 months

Saturday 3rd August
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rallycross said:
Don’t know the background]
As others have said, the background is necessary to give an opinion on whether it was acceptable, or not.

Unless, you just wanted to cast your net simply to catch people who are annoyed and want to have a moan because the police keep nicking them.

jamesson

3,188 posts

228 months

Saturday 3rd August
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FFS, OP. rolleyes

How many officers would you have in that situation trying to arrest an uncooperative prisoner and umpteen hostile people nearby?

As others have said, three officers were dealing with the prisoner and everyone else is on crowd control trying to keep their colleagues safe. Not even remotely heavy handed. It's not like they're all piling in with strikes and batons, is it?

TheDrownedApe

1,202 posts

63 months

Saturday 3rd August
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rallycross said:
Unfortunately I don’t know any more details on why she was arrested just looked very heavy handed to me.
That's because you've chosen that well known neutral video site without checking the source.

Please don't share nonsense again; most of the current rioting issues have spawned from social media crap

Drumroll

3,976 posts

127 months

Saturday 3rd August
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what concerns me more is some of the comments that have been posted. some are disgusting

rallycross

Original Poster:

13,268 posts

244 months

Saturday 3rd August
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TheDrownedApe said:
That's because you've chosen that well known neutral video site without checking the source.

Please don't share nonsense again; most of the current rioting issues have spawned from social media crap
Is it nonsense? Presumably this was filmed by a member of the public and posted online it shows what’s really going on it’s not edited to show nonsense.

Drumroll

3,976 posts

127 months

Saturday 3rd August
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rallycross said:
Is it nonsense? Presumably this was filmed by a member of the public and posted online it shows what’s really going on it’s not edited to show nonsense.
But what went on before? We don't really have any context.

Nibbles_bits

1,318 posts

46 months

Saturday 3rd August
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Textbook arrest.

3 to safely restrain and handcuff her. The rest keeping the crowd back.

OP if you think 3 Officers was heavy handed, you'd be even les happy if one Officer used more force to reach the same outcome.

Vasco

17,344 posts

112 months

Saturday 3rd August
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rallycross said:
Interesting to hear your thoughts on this arrest?

(Sorry not Stoke was Preston).

Don’t know the background to why she was arrested but looks very heavy handed by the police


https://youtu.be/QaLHKel-qHc?si=39gWhJKOXOq9S6wd

Edited by rallycross on Saturday 3rd August 18:43
Sorry, I must be missing something. All I can see is that a couple of police have a lady pinned to the ground and it has taken quite a sizeable number of other police to protect them.
What would bother me far more is the number of typical idiots using mobile phones to photograph what's going on and others shouting and ranting away for no obvious reason.
Clearly, if we knew what had led up to this it might be possible to give a truly balanced view but I certainly can't see any heavy handed treatment.
I'm surprised that a couple of loud troublemakers weren't removed or arrested but I guess those police present were needed to protect their colleagues.
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DP14

276 posts

46 months

Saturday 3rd August
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I have no idea who she is, what side she is on or why she's being arrested but over on the NP&E Southport thread some are concerned that "The risk of keeping someone with that bulld and probably associated health conditions face down and handcuffed are immense", to which my thoughts are that someone with that build and probable associated health conditions perhaps shouldn't be heading out into tense social disorder situations and should certainly refrain from engaging in activity likely to elicit a physical response.

S366

1,096 posts

149 months

Saturday 3rd August
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As usual with this type of clip, we have no context, we can’t see the lead up to it and have no idea what caused it. Maybe others were involved and the additional officers were needed to keep them at bay, we don’t know.

Jamescrs

4,865 posts

72 months

Sunday 4th August
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Looks perfectly proportionate to me, I make the assumption that she wasn't going to co operate which meant she had to be taken to the floor but that aside three officers to put her on the floor safely and under control where she could be handcuffed.

Likely one officer or two could have put her to the floor but it would have been far less controlled and she would have likely gone down hard increasing the risk of injury to the woman where as it was done under control making it safer for the woman arrested.

The other officers were keeping the crowd back which again is reasonable