Variable speed limit record

[itSUX]

Hi, does Highways Agency keep a record of temporary changes to speed limits? Date, time etc. Physical signposts and Smart gantries.
Re - Variable speed limit on A14 west (Offord/Cluny). Unusual for me to get caught out by variable speed limits (honestly), so I want to query it.

Also been trying for 2 weeks to log into Cambs star portal for more info about a speeding ticket, still doesn't work. They do offer a contact telephone number with a time window of 2.5 hours right in the middle of the day. Awkward.

[JagLad]

National Highways will keep a log of the times variable speed limits were imposed.

If you were captured by a "HADEC3" device it will have taken a photograph of the gantry at the same time as one was taken of your vehicle. If you ask the police for "photographs to help identify the driver" they will usually provide such photographs. They are very unlikely to help identify the driver but may show you the gantry display.

Note that any requests you make do not stop the clock on the 28 days that you have to provide the driver's details.

[Altitude]

Yes, call them on 0300 123 5000 or you can email on [e-mail]

If you ask for a massive amount of info, you'll likely be declined so be as specific as you can to the date, time, location

[I am alright Jack]

Have you received a NIP for the A14?

[itSUX]

Yes, got it 2 weeks ago. It tells me to log into 'star portal' to get the details but the site is down.

[I am alright Jack]

itSUX said:

Yes, got it 2 weeks ago. It tells me to log into 'star portal' to get the details but the site is down.

Okay thanks. I was asking because of this..

"Now that the road is open, as the A14 and not A14(M), and despite HE's claims, it does make a small difference that motorway regulations are absent. Traffic Regulation Orders have been applied to prohibit most non-motorway vehicles from the road, so in that sense there is little difference. However, vehicle class speed limits differ on A-roads and motorways (see our guide), so buses, coaches and goods vehicles are all subject to limits 10mph lower than they would have been. There's also the consideration that variable speed limits cannot currently be applied to non-motorway roads and new legislation will be required to apply them - so, as it stands, the A14 doesn't operate like a Smart Motorway and limits shown on its electronic signs are only advisory".

https://www.roads.org.uk/blog/missing-m

This was dated Jan 2020 so I guess the legislation they speak of has been changed. Although as of a week or so ago the cameras still do not differentiate between different classes of vehicle.

Edited by I am alright Jack on Tuesday 30th July 20:30

[itSUX]

itSUX said:

Yes, got it 2 weeks ago. It tells me to log into 'star portal' to get the details but the site is down.

Just got back from holiday for 10 days, site didn't work when I left, still doesn't work now. (there's someone somewhere whose job it is to make these things work, easy money)
I'll try to phone them tomorrow.
Thanks all. 🙂

[agtlaw]

JagLad said:

National Highways will keep a log of the times variable speed limits were imposed.

If you were captured by a "HADEC3" device it will have taken a photograph of the gantry at the same time as one was taken of your vehicle. If you ask the police for "photographs to help identify the driver" they will usually provide such photographs. They are very unlikely to help identify the driver but may show you the gantry display.

Note that any requests you make do not stop the clock on the 28 days that you have to provide the driver's details.

Sounds like template nonsense from the pepipo walts forum. What's your username?

I suspect you mean HADECS3.

[JagLad]

agtlaw said:

I suspect you mean HADECS3.

Yes I do. Thanks for the correction.

I couldn't be sure, but I believe Pepipoo is defunct.

[agtlaw]

Good.

[JagLad]

I am alright Jack said:

This was dated Jan 2020 so I guess the legislation they speak of has been changed.

And don't forget, even if it hasn't, you must still respond to the "Request for Driver's Details".

[RSTurboPaul]

I am alright Jack said:

itSUX said:

Yes, got it 2 weeks ago. It tells me to log into 'star portal' to get the details but the site is down.

Okay thanks. I was asking because of this..

"Now that the road is open, as the A14 and not A14(M), and despite HE's claims, it does make a small difference that motorway regulations are absent. Traffic Regulation Orders have been applied to prohibit most non-motorway vehicles from the road, so in that sense there is little difference. However, vehicle class speed limits differ on A-roads and motorways (see our guide), so buses, coaches and goods vehicles are all subject to limits 10mph lower than they would have been. There's also the consideration that variable speed limits cannot currently be applied to non-motorway roads and new legislation will be required to apply them - so, as it stands, the A14 doesn't operate like a Smart Motorway and limits shown on its electronic signs are only advisory".

https://www.roads.org.uk/blog/missing-m

This was dated Jan 2020 so I guess the legislation they speak of has been changed. Although as of a week or so ago the cameras still do not differentiate between different classes of vehicle.

Edited by I am alright Jack on Tuesday 30th July 20:30

Interesting...

I was of the (likely incorrect) understanding that the speed cameras were not working as Average Speed Cameras on the A14 west of Cambridge because they required an act of parliament to be enacted, which had been read out in parliament but not actioned?? (technical terms, obviously...)

I think I might be confused if it is the case that the legislation quoted is to enact variable limits on non-motorway roads?

Does that mean that the A14 cameras are set as 'dumb' cameras at the 70mph limit only?

Or has the legislation been enacted now??

(And why could they not be setup as average speed cameras anyway, given they (sadly) exist on many other A-roads?)

[itSUX]

JagLad said:

And don't forget, even if it hasn't, you must still respond to the "Request for Driver's Details".

👍

[Red Devil]

JagLad said:

I couldn't be sure, but I believe Pepipoo is defunct.

Correct. Its successor is here - https://www.ftla.uk/index.php

[I am alright Jack]

RSTurboPaul said:

Interesting...

I was of the (likely incorrect) understanding that the speed cameras were not working as Average Speed Cameras on the A14 west of Cambridge because they required an act of parliament to be enacted, which had been read out in parliament but not actioned?? (technical terms, obviously...)

I think I might be confused if it is the case that the legislation quoted is to enact variable limits on non-motorway roads?

Does that mean that the A14 cameras are set as 'dumb' cameras at the 70mph limit only?

Or has the legislation been enacted now??

(And why could they not be setup as average speed cameras anyway, given they (sadly) exist on many other A-roads?)

Yes, there are no average cameras on that stretch they are just normal Hadecs 3. Edit.. I think what you're thinking of was a different bit of legislation concerning Hadecs cameras being authorised to work as average speed cameras as well. I remember reading something about that ages ago but don't know what the outcome was.

The legislation in the link was about variable limits on A roads.

I don't know about that legislation apart from the info in the link I posted, but yes I think you're correct and due to the fact the op has received a nip in a variable section I can only assume the legislation has been changed.

My theory was that they didn't work for anything at all, NSL or reduced limits because of the missing M. Due to the fact the op has received a NIP I now know things have changed for at least one of those points.

I don't keep up with this stuff as much as I used to due to not driving for a living any more.

Edited by I am alright Jack on Tuesday 30th July 22:18