Moving Traffic Contraventions - London

Moving Traffic Contraventions - London

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hawk617

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2 posts

5 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Anyone know what Councils (and TFL) do in regards to Moving Traffic Violations?

E.G. if someone was captured performing a banned turn, u-turn, etc? Could it be a PCN, or worse? No idea if TFL/London Councils operate camera devices/CCTV for stuff like this, but I presume they do.

I've got a junction near me (SE London) that is ridiculous... bit confused as apparently if you're caught by the council for things like this they'll give you a PCN, but yet a TS50 violation (which is what this junction has a lot of!) results in 3 points?

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JagLad

109 posts

7 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Local authorities can issue only financial penalties. They cannot issue anything that involves endorsements and penalty points.

wyson

2,690 posts

111 months

Wednesday 17th July
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https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/fixed-pen...

Seems the type of fine you get and who issues it, depends on the specific offence.

Disobeying a No right turn sign is a PCN issued by the local authority. No points on your license.

Jumping a red light is a FPN with points on your license.

Seems pretty complicated to me.

Full list of FPN codes:
https://moneynerd.co.uk/fpn-codes/

Edited by wyson on Wednesday 17th July 23:05

siremoon

242 posts

106 months

Thursday 18th July
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hawk617 said:
Anyone know what Councils (and TFL) do in regards to Moving Traffic Violations?

E.G. if someone was captured performing a banned turn, u-turn, etc? Could it be a PCN, or worse? No idea if TFL/London Councils operate camera devices/CCTV for stuff like this, but I presume they do.

I've got a junction near me (SE London) that is ridiculous... bit confused as apparently if you're caught by the council for things like this they'll give you a PCN, but yet a TS50 violation (which is what this junction has a lot of!) results in 3 points?

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Oh yes. London is absolutely infested with cameras on box junctions etc.

JagLad

109 posts

7 months

Thursday 18th July
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One of the restriction that LAs face is that they can only enforce offences where "keeper liability" can be utilised. They have no authority to demand a Registered Keeper provides the driver's details at the time of an alleged offence. This is done under s172 of the RTA and can only be demanded by a person acting ",,,on behalf of a chief officer of police."

Mandat

4,002 posts

245 months

Thursday 18th July
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I got stranded in a yellow box last weekend, when someone swooped in from the next lane and took my landing space beyond the yellow box.

This was in central London, so I'm fully expecting a CCTV PCN to arrive in the post any day.

I've already prepared for the PCN by downloading my dashcam footage of the event and dusting off the various template appeal letters that I've saved from previous threads on the same subject.


Edited by Mandat on Thursday 18th July 15:26

C5_Steve

4,819 posts

110 months

Thursday 18th July
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It's only a fine, my sister has been caught numerous times for things in SE London. They send her a lovely picture of her car each time with a bill.