ANPR car park riddle

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carreauchompeur

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18,009 posts

211 months

Sunday 7th July
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Hi folks,

Idle interest only, nobody has got a ticket, not even my friend. Anyhoo, this weekend I enjoyed a small music event at Porlock Weir. The car park there has recently been taken over by Horizon parking. Utterly extortionate rates. There’s an ANPR camera on one entrance- technically it’s one way, so you exit over the other side.

You pay when you leave, entering your reg brings up the time you’re there. However, try as I might, I couldn’t find an exit camera!

Is this just smoke and mirrors to scare people into paying? To my mind, you could just enter, leave car for a bit, pay for an hour and you’re done.

Not that I would obvio!



e-honda

9,289 posts

153 months

Monday 8th July
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They could be doing spot checks, so anyone claiming they drove through but never parked, or that they left well before they actually did could get caught out.
They probably aren't or at least aren't often.

Terminator X

16,294 posts

211 months

Monday 8th July
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There is a carpark near me with ANPR on the way in and none on the way out^. I just drive in the exit and park for free all day.

^There is an exit near the ANPR too that is monitored but not on the other 2nd exit

TX.

Tommo87

4,703 posts

120 months

Monday 8th July
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I guess that explains the high prices for the people who don’t try and cheat the system.

T87

Terminator X

16,294 posts

211 months

Monday 8th July
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Tommo87 said:
I guess that explains the high prices for the people who don’t try and cheat the system.

T87
Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

TX.

vikingaero

11,194 posts

176 months

Monday 8th July
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Shirley this is just a cheap charlie way of Horizon doing business. The system resolves it by using the ANPR camera when you enter to record your reg. You pay before exit, so it knows your entry time and intended time of exit and presumes you leave soon after exit. Any people left over on the system as entering and not paying, haven't paid and can be sent their invoices,. Anyone who may have entered the car park to drop off/found the car park too busy and left immediately can be sent a scam invoice to pay and many people will pay for fear of "harming their credit rating".....

InvisibleSpider

167 posts

166 months

Monday 8th July
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I may be misinterpreting your first post where you say 'technically one way' and 'exit the other side'.

Can that camera you've photographed pick up traffic coming and going? ANPR cameras can detect with direction traffic is moving from a single camera so if that camera can see both entrance and exit, that's the answer.

If it cant, I'm out of guesses!

carreauchompeur

Original Poster:

18,009 posts

211 months

Monday 8th July
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InvisibleSpider said:
I may be misinterpreting your first post where you say 'technically one way' and 'exit the other side'.

Can that camera you've photographed pick up traffic coming and going? ANPR cameras can detect with direction traffic is moving from a single camera so if that camera can see both entrance and exit, that's the answer.

If it cant, I'm out of guesses!
Sorry, no….there is a camera on entrance only! The exit is completely separate

OutInTheShed

9,316 posts

33 months

Monday 8th July
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ANPR cameras can be quite small and discrete.
I think they can also be IR, so may not even have an obvious clear lens.

The thing that looks obviously like a camera might even be a decoy.

Super Sonic

7,230 posts

61 months

Monday 8th July
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Camera records entry time, you pay when you leave, so leaving time is assumed to be when you pay.

the tribester

2,594 posts

93 months

Monday 8th July
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Super Sonic said:
Camera records entry time, you pay when you leave, so leaving time is assumed to be when you pay.
I think the point is, if you enter the car park, your number is read, you then drive around the car park but there are no spaces left, so you leave by the unmonitored exit, what happens next?

Super Sonic

7,230 posts

61 months

Monday 8th July
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the tribester said:
I think the point is, if you enter the car park, your number is read, you then drive around the car park but there are no spaces left, so you leave by the unmonitored exit, what happens next?
Oh I see, so the parking company wouldn't know what time you left! Ops q makes sense now!
I wonder if you have to get a ticket from the pay machine to open the exit gate? Or does the gate open wether you've paid or not?

carreauchompeur

Original Poster:

18,009 posts

211 months

Tuesday 9th July
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No gate! And actually that’s a very good point about not finding a space and driving out!

OutInTheShed

9,316 posts

33 months

Tuesday 9th July
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There may also be patrols recording reg numbers at various times.

pavarotti1980

5,455 posts

91 months

Tuesday 9th July
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OutInTheShed said:
There may also be patrols recording reg numbers at various times.
Why would they if they use ANPR?

GasEngineer

1,165 posts

69 months

Tuesday 9th July
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pavarotti1980 said:
OutInTheShed said:
There may also be patrols recording reg numbers at various times.
Why would they if they use ANPR?
To catch people doing as the OP suggests tongue outaying for an hour but staying for 3.

pavarotti1980

5,455 posts

91 months

Tuesday 9th July
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GasEngineer said:
To catch people doing as the OP suggests tongue outaying for an hour but staying for 3.
If they have ANPR they will not want to spend a penny more on "operating" it. Hence the reason they install ANPR in the first place

boyse7en

7,110 posts

172 months

Tuesday 9th July
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OutInTheShed said:
There may also be patrols recording reg numbers at various times.
If they had patrols they wouldn't need the ANPR system


GasEngineer

1,165 posts

69 months

Tuesday 9th July
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pavarotti1980 said:
If they have ANPR they will not want to spend a penny more on "operating" it. Hence the reason they install ANPR in the first place
Only on the entrance it appears. Without patrols how would they catch someone paying for a short time and leaving the car there?

pavarotti1980

5,455 posts

91 months

Tuesday 9th July
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GasEngineer said:
Only on the entrance it appears. Without patrols how would they catch someone paying for a short time and leaving the car there?
In that case why have an ANPR system to have a womble too.