legality of pet camera

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usn90

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1,638 posts

77 months

Monday 3rd June
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Appreciate it’s quite an odd one however there is a back story albeit boring one so I’ll keep the post to the point. we have reason to believe a house round the corner is feeding our cat and keeping her in, we have an air tag attached to her collar so we know she’s at this address, but can’t say for absolute certain if she’s in an outbuilding or the house.

After the latest episode I have a strong suspicion it’s the latter, despite the people living there saying otherwise.

I’ve seen you can buy cat/dog cameras, I’d like to buy one to determine the facts however I’m not sure if there’s some legal complications in doing so if she is in fact in someone else’s house.


NRG1976

1,375 posts

17 months

Monday 3rd June
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Let them keep the cat, absolutely disloyal horrible things that leave me wondering why people try to “own” one.Buy a dog, for more rewarding and a friend for life!

Oh, and I doubt you can stick a camera on a cat given privacy issues.

MikeM6

5,220 posts

109 months

Monday 3rd June
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NRG1976 said:
Let them keep the cat, absolutely disloyal horrible things that leave me wondering why people try to “own” one.Buy a dog, for more rewarding and a friend for life!

Oh, and I doubt you can stick a camera on a cat given privacy issues.
Our cat takes issue with your post and has given it a very disdainful look.... At least, I think it was aimed at our post....

On a serious note, I wouldn't be without my cat. He is a very affectionate old thing and quite loyal to my wife and I. He brings me much joy, but I don't pretend to own him.

usn90

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EmailAddress said:
If your cat didn't like the treatment it received, it wouldn't go there no.
Yes there’s that to it, however without coming across as Louis Litt she’s very well looked after at home, besides all that she’s on a certain diet otherwise she ends up poorly which is partly where my suspicion arose.

We get it is the cat which is going there, however after nicely dropping the hint not to feed her, and them keeping the cat inside whilst trying to deny she is actually there is another thing, especially when I’m stood at the door with my young daughter (her cat)

ScoobyChris

1,806 posts

209 months

Monday 3rd June
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EmailAddress said:
If your cat didn't like the treatment it received, it wouldn't go there no.
I "lost" one of my cats to an old lady 3 doors down the road who was feeding him freshly cooked meat every day!

Chris

RizzoTheRat

25,995 posts

199 months

Monday 3rd June
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A few years ago PETA filed a lawsuit against a photographer that had set up a motion activated camera that the copyright of the photos taken belonged to the Macaques in the pictures not the guy who set up the cameras.

Surely this would mean any photographs taken by your cat would be owned by your cat not by you, so it's not your problem if they invite your cat in to thier house and allow it to film them.

119

9,500 posts

43 months

Monday 3rd June
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usn90 said:
Appreciate it’s quite an odd one however there is a back story albeit boring one so I’ll keep the post to the point. we have reason to believe a house round the corner is feeding our cat and keeping her in, we have an air tag attached to her collar so we know she’s at this address, but can’t say for absolute certain if she’s in an outbuilding or the house.

After the latest episode I have a strong suspicion it’s the latter, despite the people living there saying otherwise.

I’ve seen you can buy cat/dog cameras, I’d like to buy one to determine the facts however I’m not sure if there’s some legal complications in doing so if she is in fact in someone else’s house.
And once you have determined that the cat is staying there, what are you going to do?

Give your cat a stern talking to?

usn90

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Wills2

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182 months

Monday 3rd June
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We adopted a cat that came into our garden, it lived in the garden/garage for years (she was pretty feral when she first arrived) but we also had a dog that wasn't very happy about its presence, the day the dog died the cat knew and came in the house and lived with us until she passed away. (I miss her way more than the dog)

But you never really own a cat unless the cat wants you to, if it's going elsewhere you just have to accept it.


MadCaptainJack

928 posts

47 months

Monday 3rd June
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NRG1976 said:
Oh, and I doubt you can stick a camera on a cat given privacy issues.
The Prodigy did it without any problems.

Tommo87

4,703 posts

120 months

Monday 3rd June
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NRG1976 said:
Let them keep the cat, absolutely disloyal horrible things that leave me wondering why people try to “own” one.Buy a dog, for more rewarding and a friend for life!

Oh, and I doubt you can stick a camera on a cat given privacy issues.
Owning a dog is certainly much cheaper than owning a real human baby.

But, if you already have young children, a cat is easier to own. HTH.

motco

16,227 posts

253 months

Monday 3rd June
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You don't think that the neighbours might notice that the cat has a camera strapped to it? Especially as you've questioned them about what's going on any way! You risk causing more offence than simply saying "you're a liar!"

Prepare for a short video of a bared arse when the cat comes back...

mmm-five

11,436 posts

291 months

Monday 3rd June
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RizzoTheRat said:
A few years ago PETA filed a lawsuit against a photographer that had set up a motion activated camera that the copyright of the photos taken belonged to the Macaques in the pictures not the guy who set up the cameras.

Surely this would mean any photographs taken by your cat would be owned by your cat not by you, so it's not your problem if they invite your cat in to thier house and allow it to film them.
PETA lost the lawsuit though, as it was ruled by a federal court that an an animal cannot hold a copyright...and that PETA's motivations were in their own interests rather than the monkey's.

Their appeal was subsequently dismissed by the appeals court, and a later appeals court ruling then confirmed the original decision that animals cannot hold copyright.

It went as far as the photographer offering an out of court settlement to give PETA 25% of earning from the photo, but the court rejected that settlement and kept the original ruling against PETA.

usn90

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1,638 posts

77 months

Monday 3rd June
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motco said:
You don't think that the neighbours might notice that the cat has a camera strapped to it? Especially as you've questioned them about what's going on any way! You risk causing more offence than simply saying "you're a liar!"

Prepare for a short video of a bared arse when the cat comes back...
Perhaps not, as they seem oblivious to the fact the cats got an AirTag attached to its collar yet still deny the cats there despite us oddly enough stood on their doorstep multiple occasions explaining its tracked

Countdown

41,996 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd June
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I'm curious as to who would sue you and on what grounds?

IANAL but AIUI it's legal to film in public.

if they keep inviting it into their house against your express wishes then surely it's their own fault.

Maybe hang a signa round the cat's neck



Also

https://furbo.com/uk/products/furbo-360-cat-camera

TwigtheWonderkid

44,654 posts

157 months

Monday 3rd June
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Wills2 said:
But you never really own a cat unless the cat wants you to, if it's going elsewhere you just have to accept it.

Yup. Dogs have owners, cats have staff.

Altitude

68 posts

9 months

Monday 3rd June
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NRG1976 said:
Let them keep the cat, absolutely disloyal horrible things that leave me wondering why people try to “own” one.Buy a dog, for more rewarding and a friend for life!

Oh, and I doubt you can stick a camera on a cat given privacy issues.
What an odd post. Cats are some of the most sociable, affectionate and loving creatures you can behold. That you earn that love and trust is very telling when dogs have been bred specifically to offer that regardless.

Could you also quote the relevant privacy issues you are referring to and how it relates?

Ham_and_Jam

2,567 posts

104 months

Monday 3rd June
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usn90 said:
Perhaps not, as they seem oblivious to the fact the cats got an AirTag attached to its collar yet still deny the cats there despite us oddly enough stood on their doorstep multiple occasions explaining its tracked
Are confident that it is not just sat on their shed roof as opposed to being in their house?

MrBig

3,115 posts

136 months

Monday 3rd June
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Just fit the camera. Just argue that if they invited the cat in then it's down to them! laugh

Ham_and_Jam

2,567 posts

104 months

Monday 3rd June
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usn90 said:
Perhaps not, as they seem oblivious to the fact the cats got an AirTag attached to its collar yet still deny the cats there despite us oddly enough stood on their doorstep multiple occasions explaining its tracked
Are confident that it is not just sat on their shed roof as opposed to being in their house?