why haven't the police prosecuted in this assault case ?

why haven't the police prosecuted in this assault case ?

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Purosangue

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1,131 posts

20 months

Friday 31st May
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https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/24281622.bo...

April 19th

A friend who works for us , has a 12 year old son who attends Oak academy school in Poole Dorset , there was a minor fracas between his lad and another 12 year old boy , The following day my friend went to pick his son up from school , when a vehicle pulled up with the father of the other boy and his older 16 year old son.

witnesses heard the father say "that's him pointing at my friends lad the 16 year old then ran out of the car and punched the 12 year old in the face . My friend witnessing this rushed over to protect his son and restrained the other lad , witnesses said he only separated the two boys.
However The other dad who is a martial artist ran out of his car and punched our friend in the side of the head , he fell down and was repeatedly kicked in the head whilst on the ground , he suffered concussion and severe bruising .

This was witnessed by teacher /Staff members from the school and other parents , some gave statements , however as this man has a "history ", several of the teachers decided not to give statements
so why haven't the police prosecuted so far ?



MattsCar

1,258 posts

112 months

Friday 31st May
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Because...

"We are continuing to investigate this assault and establish the full circumstances of how it happened."

And it has probably been put on the back burner/ hope someone forgets about it list.

If those involved kick up enough fuss, speak to the right people MP's etc, it might be looked at in more detail.

Keep pressing.

Welcome to the UK 2024.

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9,500 posts

43 months

Friday 31st May
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Purosangue said:
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/24281622.bo...

April 19th

A friend who works for us , has a 12 year old son who attends Oak academy school in Poole Dorset , there was a minor fracas between his lad and another 12 year old boy , The following day my friend went to pick his son up from school , when a vehicle pulled up with the father of the other boy and his older 16 year old son.

witnesses heard the father say "that's him pointing at my friends lad the 16 year old then ran out of the car and punched the 12 year old in the face . My friend witnessing this rushed over to protect his son and restrained the other lad , witnesses said he only separated the two boys.
However The other dad who is a martial artist ran out of his car and punched our friend in the side of the head , he fell down and was repeatedly kicked in the head whilst on the ground , he suffered concussion and severe bruising .

This was witnessed by teacher /Staff members from the school and other parents , some gave statements , however as this man has a "history ", several of the teachers decided not to give statements
so why haven't the police prosecuted so far ?
Because, at a guess, the police are still investigating.

Purosangue

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GT03ROB

13,568 posts

228 months

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Fast and Spurious

1,555 posts

95 months

Saturday 1st June
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Excuses. Utterly sickening and in a civilised country he'd be locked up already.

SteveScooby

809 posts

184 months

Saturday 1st June
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Because it takes time to gather evidence.
CCTV, statements, medical evidence (takes ages).

Not much point arresting before you have it, if there is no ongoing risk, as you’ll just have to bail the suspect until you get it all.
CPS advice will then be needed if it’s s47(ABH)

Nibbles_bits

1,320 posts

46 months

Saturday 1st June
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It's unlikely that an arrest would be necessary now.

It can take CPS upto 4 months to make a decision on charging.

ED209

5,854 posts

251 months

Saturday 1st June
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Nibbles_bits said:
It's unlikely that an arrest would be necessary now.

It can take CPS upto 4 months to make a decision on charging.
It can take a lot longer than 4 months.

agtlaw

6,910 posts

213 months

Saturday 1st June
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ED209 said:
It can take a lot longer than 4 months.
Yes but not for a summary only offence as there's a six-month time limit to institute proceedings. (N.b. there are some exceptions to the general rule).


KAgantua

4,241 posts

138 months

Saturday 1st June
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ED209 said:
Nibbles_bits said:
It's unlikely that an arrest would be necessary now.

It can take CPS upto 4 months to make a decision on charging.
It can take a lot longer than 4 months.
I thought it only took 20 seconds?

Dingu

4,345 posts

37 months

Saturday 1st June
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Fast and Spurious said:
Excuses. Utterly sickening and in a civilised country he'd be locked up already.
Civilised countries don’t just jump to the locking up. That’s a very slippery slope.

Nibbles_bits

1,320 posts

46 months

Saturday 1st June
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agtlaw said:
ED209 said:
It can take a lot longer than 4 months.
Yes but not for a summary only offence as there's a six-month time limit to institute proceedings. (N.b. there are some exceptions to the general rule).
Sounds like ABH to me.

The Gauge

3,178 posts

20 months

Saturday 1st June
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The police don’t prosecute, and haven’t done for decades. Maybe that’s why?

Purosangue

Original Poster:

1,131 posts

20 months

Saturday 1st June
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SteveScooby said:
Because it takes time to gather evidence.
CCTV, statements, medical evidence (takes ages).

Not much point arresting before you have it, if there is no ongoing risk, as you’ll just have to bail the suspect until you get it all.
CPS advice will then be needed if it’s s47(ABH)
Its a sad society we live in today where Joe public's reaction ,is to immediately take out your mobile phone and start filming

Only one bystander intervened to restrain the chap , our friend received 10 kicks to the head , this chap has serious anger management issues and as a martial artist would I imagine know where to hurt someone, aggravated by sending his 16 year old to attack a 12 year old .

sad that several teachers and parents who stood around filming have not given witness statements .....welcome to the UK , a different place when i grew up in the 70s


agtlaw

6,910 posts

213 months

Saturday 1st June
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The Gauge said:
The police don’t prosecute, and haven’t done for decades. Maybe that’s why?
Wrong!

“Since 2010, the police have been given greater responsibility for charging decisions and prosecutions with the aim of cutting bureaucracy. The police are now responsible for nearly 80% of all charging decisions and prosecuting an increased range of offences, including, for example, criminal damage under £5,000 and careless or inconsiderate driving. The Crown Prosecution Service retains responsibility for the most complex and serious cases.”

Source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-brie...


Edited by agtlaw on Saturday 1st June 12:36

Bigends

5,674 posts

135 months

Saturday 1st June
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Nibbles_bits said:
agtlaw said:
ED209 said:
It can take a lot longer than 4 months.
Yes but not for a summary only offence as there's a six-month time limit to institute proceedings. (N.b. there are some exceptions to the general rule).
Sounds like ABH to me.
Would certainly be recorded as ABH - may not necessarily be charged as such though.

Foss62

1,182 posts

72 months

Saturday 1st June
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Dingu said:
Fast and Spurious said:
Excuses. Utterly sickening and in a civilised country he'd be locked up already.
Civilised countries don’t just jump to the locking up. That’s a very slippery slope.
So are we to understand that a vicious attack on a stranger by a known assailant wouldn’t normally result in an arrest and a period in a police cell?

Nibbles_bits

1,320 posts

46 months

Saturday 1st June
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Foss62 said:
Dingu said:
Fast and Spurious said:
Excuses. Utterly sickening and in a civilised country he'd be locked up already.
Civilised countries don’t just jump to the locking up. That’s a very slippery slope.
So are we to understand that a vicious attack on a stranger by a known assailant wouldn’t normally result in an arrest and a period in a police cell?
An arrest isn't always necessary.

the tribester

2,594 posts

93 months

Saturday 1st June
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What do the witness statements say?