Son keeps getting tickets for cars he doesn't own
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My son keeps getting various tickets, speeding, use of phone, not paying ULEZ & tolls, etc in different parts of the country for a series of cars he doesn't own and has never owned and in places he's never visited.
They are being sent in his name at my address even though he hasn't lived with us for 3 years. The first couple nearly got missed as sometimes he doesn't visit for a few weeks. Each time he gets one he contacts the force in question who tell him to state he's not the driver/keeper on the back of the form and send it back but it's only a matter of time before one of these letters gets missed and he ends up with a ticket by default.
The police don't seem to be interested in pursuing the drivers of these cars, one Audi in particular is quite a prolific offender and the DVLA say that you can register a car to anyone you like so it seems we've just got to be vigilant looking out for the letters so he can respond in time. You'd think it would be quite easy for the police to put a marker on the cars as they are unlikely to be insured and probably using them to commit other crimes.
it's strange how they've got his name tied to our address as the only place that he's ever used them is for his bank accounts and a new car on PCP 3-4 years ago.
They are being sent in his name at my address even though he hasn't lived with us for 3 years. The first couple nearly got missed as sometimes he doesn't visit for a few weeks. Each time he gets one he contacts the force in question who tell him to state he's not the driver/keeper on the back of the form and send it back but it's only a matter of time before one of these letters gets missed and he ends up with a ticket by default.
The police don't seem to be interested in pursuing the drivers of these cars, one Audi in particular is quite a prolific offender and the DVLA say that you can register a car to anyone you like so it seems we've just got to be vigilant looking out for the letters so he can respond in time. You'd think it would be quite easy for the police to put a marker on the cars as they are unlikely to be insured and probably using them to commit other crimes.
it's strange how they've got his name tied to our address as the only place that he's ever used them is for his bank accounts and a new car on PCP 3-4 years ago.
Why would random people all over the country be registering cars in your sons name at his old address ?
to avoid paying fines ?
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to avoid paying fines ?
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Edited by x type on Thursday 23 May 20:47
Edited by x type on Thursday 23 May 20:48
This has been well reported and Radio 4 have been doing some stuff on it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pqg75expwo
Another link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001vccy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pqg75expwo
Another link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001vccy
Edited by zalrak on Thursday 23 May 20:56
zalrak said:
This has been well reported and Radio 4 have been doing some stuff on it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pqg75expwo
"The DVLA said it did not have a record of Barry's address on its system and no cars were registered to his address"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pqg75expwo
Where did those sending the fines get his address from if not from the DVLA ?
OddCat said:
zalrak said:
This has been well reported and Radio 4 have been doing some stuff on it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pqg75expwo
"The DVLA said it did not have a record of Barry's address on its system and no cars were registered to his address"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pqg75expwo
Where did those sending the fines get his address from if not from the DVLA ?
The authority confirmed the letters had been issued to Barry's home after a "representation from the registered keeper of these vehicles".
Presumably the original letter was sent to the registered keeper, who then responded that Barry had been driving the vehicle at the time of the offence.
Which is a bit silly, because Barry will reply that he was not the driver of the vehicle, and even more police time will be wasted trying to prove that the registered keeper had been driving.
Rayny said:
OddCat said:
zalrak said:
This has been well reported and Radio 4 have been doing some stuff on it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pqg75expwo
"The DVLA said it did not have a record of Barry's address on its system and no cars were registered to his address"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pqg75expwo
Where did those sending the fines get his address from if not from the DVLA ?
The authority confirmed the letters had been issued to Barry's home after a "representation from the registered keeper of these vehicles".
Presumably the original letter was sent to the registered keeper, who then responded that Barry had been driving the vehicle at the time of the offence.
Which is a bit silly, because Barry will reply that he was not the driver of the vehicle, and even more police time will be wasted trying to prove that the registered keeper had been driving.
Rayny said:
Which is a bit silly, because Barry will reply that he was not the driver of the vehicle, and even more police time will be wasted trying to prove that the registered keeper had been driving.
Maybe. I wonder if the police aren't spending the time on it though and so they're getting away with it. Even if it just takes longer, I've swerved a speeding fine by getting it to time out before.OddCat said:
Why would random people all over the country be registering cars in your sons name at his old address ?
Wierd !
There'd no ID or address checks when doing a V5 update. There's been articles in the press about this, one house receiving thousands of letters as address of registered keeper.Wierd !
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nip-...
.:ian:. said:
Rayny said:
OddCat said:
zalrak said:
This has been well reported and Radio 4 have been doing some stuff on it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pqg75expwo
"The DVLA said it did not have a record of Barry's address on its system and no cars were registered to his address"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pqg75expwo
Where did those sending the fines get his address from if not from the DVLA ?
The authority confirmed the letters had been issued to Barry's home after a "representation from the registered keeper of these vehicles".
Presumably the original letter was sent to the registered keeper, who then responded that Barry had been driving the vehicle at the time of the offence.
Which is a bit silly, because Barry will reply that he was not the driver of the vehicle, and even more police time will be wasted trying to prove that the registered keeper had been driving.
It would be easy for a registered keeper to be nominating him as a driver, s
ts and giggles, PCOJ etc, but in this case it looks as if someone has registered the car to him in his name.
it is difficult to know how to proceed. You've done the obvious things, and should write to DVLA specifically about each car saying he is not the registeerd keeper. But if it persists, I think fight fire with fire a bit, I would apply to DVLA for a new updated copy of the V5C, at your address, then if they come through, you will know for sure if they are registered to him there. If they are, you can then wither hold onto the V5 knowing they cannot sell the car easily as their V5 will show up as not the latest one available, or decide to scrap and export the car, report it stolen, etc etc.
It is all very odd, i suspect somewhere along the line, your son may have met the people doing this, so it may be best to really sit him down and speak to him about it. It is unlikley they could have done this without some access to your property at some point, tbh, unless your postie is in on it.
ts and giggles, PCOJ etc, but in this case it looks as if someone has registered the car to him in his name. it is difficult to know how to proceed. You've done the obvious things, and should write to DVLA specifically about each car saying he is not the registeerd keeper. But if it persists, I think fight fire with fire a bit, I would apply to DVLA for a new updated copy of the V5C, at your address, then if they come through, you will know for sure if they are registered to him there. If they are, you can then wither hold onto the V5 knowing they cannot sell the car easily as their V5 will show up as not the latest one available, or decide to scrap and export the car, report it stolen, etc etc.
It is all very odd, i suspect somewhere along the line, your son may have met the people doing this, so it may be best to really sit him down and speak to him about it. It is unlikley they could have done this without some access to your property at some point, tbh, unless your postie is in on it.
Evanivitch said:
OddCat said:
Why would random people all over the country be registering cars in your sons name at his old address ?
Wierd !
There'd no ID or address checks when doing a V5 update. There's been articles in the press about this, one house receiving thousands of letters as address of registered keeper.Wierd !
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nip-...
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