How about this on Police Interceptors?

How about this on Police Interceptors?

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Simpo Two

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Monday 22nd April
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I have often thought, whilst watching interminable footage of Plod chasing after fleeing cars for mile after mile... 'How much simpler if they just fired a rocket-powered grapnel into the back of it...'

Not quite one of those but I wonder how effective it would be in Drugstown, UK?

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Super Sonic

7,235 posts

61 months

Monday 22nd April
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Not going on Facebook to look, but even better if it fired a pulse of electric into the car, enough to scramble the emu.

matchmaker

8,647 posts

207 months

Monday 22nd April
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Super Sonic said:
Not going on Facebook to look, but even better if it fired a pulse of electric into the car, enough to scramble the emu.
What would happen to Rod? eek

Forester1965

2,785 posts

10 months

Monday 22nd April
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Super Sonic said:
Not going on Facebook to look, but even better if it fired a pulse of electric into the car, enough to scramble the occupants.
EFA.

BEAMS 162

179 posts

54 months

Monday 22nd April
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matchmaker said:
What would happen to Rod? eek
biglaugh

Caddyshack

11,820 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd April
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For how many chases there are it occurs to me that the police should have a code to just disable the ECU on every car...I appreciate that if it can be made by a man then it can be defeated by a man but on the whole they could bring a lot of stops to a safe end.


They could phone it through to the control room.

Super Sonic

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Monday 22nd April
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Caddyshack said:
For how many chases there are it occurs to me that the police should have a code to just disable the ECU on every car...I appreciate that if it can be made by a man then it can be defeated by a man but on the whole they could bring a lot of stops to a safe end.


They could phone it through to the control room.
I remember recently there was a spate of range rovers being stole by exactly that method!

Simpo Two

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Monday 22nd April
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Caddyshack said:
For how many chases there are it occurs to me that the police should have a code to just disable the ECU on every car...
A rocket-powered grapnel would be much more satisfying though... of course they might miss and take out Mrs Miggins waiting at the bus stop...

Nibbles_bits

1,321 posts

46 months

Monday 22nd April
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Caddyshack said:
For how many chases there are it occurs to me that the police should have a code to just disable the ECU on every car...I appreciate that if it can be made by a man then it can be defeated by a man but on the whole they could bring a lot of stops to a safe end.


They could phone it through to the control room.
Have you not seen that documentary - F8 The fate of the furious??

Super Sonic

7,235 posts

61 months

Monday 22nd April
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Simpo Two said:
A rocket-powered grapnel would be much more satisfying though... of course they might miss and take out Mrs Miggins waiting at the bus stop...
You wouldn't want to scramble her emu!

leef44

4,746 posts

160 months

Monday 22nd April
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And before you know it, all these disabling methods will be available on ebay for would-be thieves.

It would give Range Rover owners some relief as it would equalise the playing field.

Caddyshack

11,820 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd April
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Super Sonic said:
I remember recently there was a spate of range rovers being stole by exactly that method!
How could you steal a car with a code that shuts down the ecu….it would be the opposite?

Super Sonic

7,235 posts

61 months

Monday 22nd April
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Caddyshack said:
How could you steal a car with a code that shuts down the ecu….it would be the opposite?
You drive along behind it, with an accomplice, armed with baseball bats. When you are in a quiet place you switch off it's engine remotely with a phone app, and unlock it's doors. You then walk up to the rr holding bat, and ask the occupant to get out. You then get in, restart the rr, and drive off, followed by your accomplice in his car.

Edited by Super Sonic on Monday 22 April 18:35

Bonefish Blues

29,378 posts

230 months

Monday 22nd April
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Super Sonic said:
Simpo Two said:
A rocket-powered grapnel would be much more satisfying though... of course they might miss and take out Mrs Miggins waiting at the bus stop...
You wouldn't want to scramble her emu!
Won't someone think of the pies?

Ian Geary

4,730 posts

199 months

Monday 22nd April
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I'm not sure that wheel net would be particularly effective


The target truck is being driven compliantly, and the police vehicle is obviously large and heavy itself. There's a trade off between handling and size, so I doubt traf pol would want to pilot a huge SUV around when chasing scroats.


Personally, I am always amazed at how stupid some scroats are - ie ending up in cul de sacs or getting lost, or overcooking things.

Most are off their head / way out of their depth I suppose though, and the police have a massive advantage being able to get people ahead.

I take a guilty pleasure when scroats defeat the intentions of plod and makes their escape. Though in real life the criminal is usually taking massive risks putting people in danger, which takes the shine of it somewhat, so no, I would not be happy if they crashed into my mum/kids etc.

I sometimes wonder what would happen if criminals got organised, and phoned a mate to head off the police car heading them off? It would only take a few in "pool" cars and the scant number of police cars around would soon get overwhelmed.

I have an "all managers" meeting tomorrow afternoon, so will ponder on that topic whilst being presented with our latest transformation plan....

Caddyshack

11,820 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd April
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Super Sonic said:
Caddyshack said:
How could you steal a car with a code that shuts down the ecu….it would be the opposite?
You drive along behind it, with an accomplice, armed with baseball bats. When you are in a quiet place you switch off it's engine remotely with a phone app, and unlock it's doors. You then walk up to the rr holding bat, and ask the occupant to get out. You then get in, restart the rr, and drive off, followed by your accomplice in his car.

Edited by Super Sonic on Monday 22 April 18:35
Ah, gotcha….i needed those extra steps.

iDrive

428 posts

120 months

Monday 22nd April
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Caddyshack said:
For how many chases there are it occurs to me that the police should have a code to just disable the ECU on every car...I appreciate that if it can be made by a man then it can be defeated by a man but on the whole they could bring a lot of stops to a safe end.


They could phone it through to the control room.
Remote disabling is a Thatcham level (I dont recall which) and the last time I looked, is a proposal for all new cars

Simpo Two

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272 months

Monday 22nd April
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iDrive said:
Remote disabling is a Thatcham level (I dont recall which) and the last time I looked, is a proposal for all new cars
Let's hope it works better than 'smart motorways' - I just watched the documentary. If only the Highways Agency was as good at making cameras and radar work as they are at evasive corporate BS. And on that theme, it's funny how cameras and radar on motorways are so unreliable, but when Plod uses cameras and radar to get you at 35 in a 30, it works perfectly every time...

andym1603

1,841 posts

179 months

Monday 22nd April
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iDrive said:
Remote disabling is a Thatcham level (I dont recall which) and the last time I looked, is a proposal for all new cars
There used to be an American program called Bait car, which the Police could shut down and secure the car once it had been stolen.
This is obviously doable would be the same technique as the Thatcham one.

R32

391 posts

259 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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I've seen on some American shows that they have a sticky GPS tracking dart which they can fire onto the car being chased and then drop back and follow at their leisure.

Seems like a good idea to me!