Traffic light cameras
Discussion
The offense is called a "Red traffic light offense" for good reason. An offense is committed if you pass through a RED light. Is this clear? where does it say there is an offense committed for crossing amber???!
To be fair though, if the traffic coming in the other direction was to keep going on amber, you may have had a smack up. So don't do it again ! - we're about safety fast here, not playing amber gambler.
C
To be fair though, if the traffic coming in the other direction was to keep going on amber, you may have had a smack up. So don't do it again ! - we're about safety fast here, not playing amber gambler.
C
hertsbiker said: The offense is called a "Red traffic light offense" for good reason. An offense is committed if you pass through a RED light. Is this clear? where does it say there is an offense committed for crossing amber???!
To be fair though, if the traffic coming in the other direction was to keep going on amber, you may have had a smack up. So don't do it again ! - we're about safety fast here, not playing amber gambler.
C
Carl, I agree that there is no offence if the light as amber, BUT, the lights would have been red and amber together, not just amber as i was changing from red not green. This is an offence (which most of us commit occasionally I suspect).
If you went past the stop line when the light was at red, you would activate the camera. The cameras are not live until the light is on red. They work on the same principle as a speed camera and the fine and points are the same.
For all of your information, an amber light at an A.T.S. means stop
From the information that you have posted I think it was a fair cop!
Oh and by the way, the photo will also include the speed that you crossed the line when the camera was activated.
For all of your information, an amber light at an A.T.S. means stop
From the information that you have posted I think it was a fair cop!
Oh and by the way, the photo will also include the speed that you crossed the line when the camera was activated.
I couldn't believe what I just saw. I took the Griff out for a bit this afternoon, and coming down the A413 towards the A40, I was overtaken by a modified black 330 shifting at around 120 mph+ with the driver talking into a mobile.
He had to stop at the first set of lights on the A40 so I caught him up. Then on to the lights under the M40 - he shot through the first red because he could see there was nothing coming off the motorway, then he turned right onto the M40 but he couldn't run the lights because of the traffic. So he waited until there was a gap in the traffic and then proceeded while the lights were still red. Not a hint of amber anywhere!
This junction has bothered me for ages - the number of times I've nearly been T-boned by idiots running those reds is incredible. So I'm all for red-light cameras. Sorry! I see your point on going through on red-amber (proceeding if it's safe to do so and all that), but this was stunningly dangerous driving from someone who should've known better.
If that was you, and you're reading this - you give all drivers of fast cars a bad name. No wonder we've got speed cameras coming out of our ears!
He had to stop at the first set of lights on the A40 so I caught him up. Then on to the lights under the M40 - he shot through the first red because he could see there was nothing coming off the motorway, then he turned right onto the M40 but he couldn't run the lights because of the traffic. So he waited until there was a gap in the traffic and then proceeded while the lights were still red. Not a hint of amber anywhere!
This junction has bothered me for ages - the number of times I've nearly been T-boned by idiots running those reds is incredible. So I'm all for red-light cameras. Sorry! I see your point on going through on red-amber (proceeding if it's safe to do so and all that), but this was stunningly dangerous driving from someone who should've known better.
If that was you, and you're reading this - you give all drivers of fast cars a bad name.
No wonder we've got speed cameras coming out of our ears!
plotloss said: Madcop,
Just out of interest, if you get flashed by an ATS camera AND you are breaking the limit will you get done for both offences with the one photo?
Matt.
With regard to the speed, no. If you think about it, there are no lines across the junction as in those painted on the road at a speed detection site.
craigw said: sounds like a right maniac although I suppose there is always a chance he was an unmarked policeman on his way to an incident.
Out of interest madcop, any idea how they work out the speed as pretty sure there are no roadmarkings?
The machine works on exactly the same principle as the speed camera. The fact there are no lines means that the speed is not evidential, unless of course the red light runner is involved in an RTA, in which case the speed that the vehicle proceded through the red light would be relevant to the evidence where Section 3 (Careless driving)or section 2 (Dangerous driving) or section 1 (Causing death by Dangerous driving)of the R.T. Act 1988 is concerned.
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