£54 mill benefits fraud - likely sentence?

[Patio]

What are they likely to face? Banged up at our expense?

Bet most of the cash is now in Eastern Europe anyway...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-6877424...

[Art Keller]

It will be a paltry sentence that will prove crime pays now in the UK

[Mabozza]

"£54 mill benefits fraud - likely sentence?"

luxury yacht and peerage

[Alickadoo]

Patio said:

What are they likely to face? Banged up at our expense?

Bet most of the cash is now in Eastern Europe anyway...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-6877424...

They got away with £54,000,000.00 and now we will have to keep them at a cost of £1,000.00 each week, each person.

Explain to me which bit I have missed?

[Simpo Two]

Our fault for (1) letting them in (2) giving them money.

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Simpo Two said:

Our fault for (1) letting them in (2) giving them money.

Yeah but, yeah but…..

[Responder.First]

Art Keller said:

It will be a paltry sentence that will prove crime pays now in the UK

I wouldn't surprised if its less than 5 years they gave Alex Bellfield for hurting Jeremy Vines feelings!

Foreign criminals seem to get very light sentences, 54m taken out of the system from needy people.

[HHZ]

And £1500 if they accept an early deportation?

[deadslow]

small beer compared to Bamford, plus did they not take fraud out of the crime statistics? No longer a crime in the UK.

[Simpo Two]

deadslow said:

small beer compared to Bamford, plus did they not take fraud out of the crime statistics? No longer a crime in the UK.

If that's true then they can't go to jail.

Unless they are rude to a transgender person of course.

Yesterday Switzerland was fined for breaching women's human rights for not doing enough for climate change.

The lunatics are running the asylum...

[Alickadoo]

deadslow said:

small beer compared to Bamford, plus did they not take fraud out of the crime statistics? No longer a crime in the UK.

Um

https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/what-we-do/...

[ChocolateFrog]

I often think if someone with a modest amount of intelligence applied themselves to crime they'd almost certainly get away with it.

Why not stop at a few million, or 10 million, or 30 million and sail off into the sunset?

I'm quite tempted personally, chance of being caught for a white collar crime, 1 in a million?

[MBVitoria]

Not my area but I reckon 7 years each taking into account reduction for guilty plea. Automatically eligible for release after 50% served.

Back home after 3.5 years. Their relatives will probably have very nice homes and lots of money, all earned legitimately of course and no obvious link to the defendants.

[Patio]

Would love to know how much £ was recovered

Bet it isn't more than 10%

I also think this is probably just a small % of the total being scammed and laundered abroad

Wonder how easy we'd find it popping over to Bulgaria to claim oodles of benefit cash?

[deadslow]

Alickadoo said:

deadslow said:

small beer compared to Bamford, plus did they not take fraud out of the crime statistics? No longer a crime in the UK.

Um

https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/what-we-do/...

err

https://www.cifas.org.uk/insight/fraud-risk-focus-...

[WhiskyDisco]

My guess is 10 years minus a third for pleading guily. 6-7 years each.

The women will receive lesser sentences because they always do.

[Forester1965]

Sentencing starting point for the ringleaders looks like 7yrs for Fraud. Range 5-8yrs but there's obviously room to up it if necessary to a maximum of 10.

[Alickadoo]

deadslow said:

Alickadoo said:

deadslow said:

small beer compared to Bamford, plus did they not take fraud out of the crime statistics? No longer a crime in the UK.

Um

https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/what-we-do/...

err

https://www.cifas.org.uk/insight/fraud-risk-focus-...

Arr

May not be in the stats, but it's still a crime within the meaning of the Act. (See what I did there?).

[CT05 Nose Cone]

It will be less than the people who restrained Premier League games got.

[sugerbear]

Simpo Two said:

Our fault for (1) letting them in (2) giving them money.

I agree with 2. If you think that fraud gangs only come from overseas you are sadly mistaken.

Still it is only half a "Mone" so not a great deal in the scheme of things.