RE: Plan your Crimes Carefully

RE: Plan your Crimes Carefully

Monday 28th October 2002

Plan your Crimes Carefully

Plan your journey carefully


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daver

Original Poster:

1,209 posts

291 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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Got to concur on the motivations of the Essex lot. I was pulled over on the A127 heading towards Southend at 07:30 on a Saturday morning a few years back just as you pass the first '40' sign. I had eased off before the sign but was still travelling at more than 40 whilst still deccelerating.

Traffic was so light that there was probably half a mile between each vehicle. Guess what? Practically EVERYONE was being pulled. I can't remember the exact numbers but there were 3 or 4 squad cars and a number of coppers approaching double figures.

No lecture, no questions, just take your ticket and go (and make room for us to process the next guy behind you).

Is this the way to encourage public support for the police?

Dazren

22,612 posts

268 months

Monday 28th October 2002
quotequote all
Bloody hell.

Avon & Somerset issued more than Northants!

DAZ

mondeoman

11,430 posts

273 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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Staffordshire issued 160,000 tickets - and 20,000 vehicle defects!!??

Bet most of them are locals as well - how long before everyone in the county has 9 points or so and the backlash at the polls begins??

jmorgan

36,010 posts

291 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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Total for Wales is high considering the total population

Geoffh

31 posts

277 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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Be useful to have accident statistics as well to see if any make an impression. Glad I live in Cheshire!

hertsbiker

6,371 posts

278 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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Southend - home of the boy racer. Hence the activity, but very harsh to be doing this in commuting hours. I don't care what our resident Plod say about "well, speeding *is* a crime".. it isn't really a crime if everyone does it. We seem to forget that a lot of activities that were illegal once, are now widely accepted & practiced.

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

310 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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Here are accident statistics for 2000-01 based on hospital admission. A total of 43,630.














































































































































































































































































































































































































Code/Health
authority
Number
QA2
Hillingdon HA
186
QA3
Kensington, Chelsea and Westminster HA
311
QA4
Enfield and Haringey HA
104
QA5
Redbridge and Waltham Forest HA
364
QA6
Bedfordshire HA
344
QA7
Berkshire HA
589
QA8
Buckinghamshire HA
566
QAA
Bexley and Greenwich HA
278
QAC
Bromley Ha
150
QAD
Croydon Ha
187
QAE
East Kent HA
537
QAF
West Kent Ha
1,086
QAG
Kingston and Richmond HA
202
QAH
Lambeth, Southwark and Lewisham HA
641
QAJ
Merton, Sutton and Wandsworth HA
462
QAL
West Surrey HA
733
QAM
East Sussex, Brighton and Hove HA
645
QAN
West Sussex Ha
895
QAP
Barking and Havering HA
226
QAQ
Barnet Ha
275
QAR
Brent and Harrow HA
24
QAT
Camden and Islington HA
490
QAV
Ealing, Hammersmith and Hounslow HA
278
QAW
East London and The City HA
444
QAX
North Essex HA
855
QAY
South Essex HA
493
QC1
South Lancashire HA
80
QC2
Liverpool HA
506
QC3
Manchester HA
422
QC4
Morecambe Bay HA
414
QC5
St. Helens and Knowsley HA
388
QC6
Salford and Trafford HA
288
QC7
Sefton HA
350
QC8
Stockport HA
223
QC9
West Pennine HA
494
QCC
Northamptonshire HA
425
QCE
Oxfordshire HA
625
QCF
Suffolk HA
634
QCG
Barnsley HA
283
QCH
North Derbyshire HA
235
QCJ
South Derbyshire HA
446
QCK
Doncaster HA
287
QCL
Leicestershire HA
517
QCM
Lincolnshire HA
890
QCN
North Nottinghamshire HA
610
QCP
Nottingham Ha
852
QCQ
Rotherham HA
257
QCR
Sheffield HA
317
QCT
Bury and Rochdale HA
247
QCV
North Cheshire Ha
329
QCW
South cheshire Ha
723
QCX
East Lancashire HA
416
QCY
North West Lancashire HA
493
QD1
North and Mid Hampshire HA
301
QD2
Portsmouth and South East Hampshire HA
594
QD3
Southampton and South West Hampshire HA
282
QD4
Isle of Wight HA
63
QD5
Somerset HA
489
QD6
South and West Devon HA
560
QD7
Wiltshire HA
548
QD8
Avon Ha
1,210
QD9
Birmingham Ha
1,347
QDA
Wigan and Bolton HA
485
QDC
Wirral HA
182
QDD
Bradford HA
414
QDE
County Durham HA
363
QDF
East Riding HA
472
QDG
Gateshead and South Tyneside HA
254
QDH
Leeds HA
741
QDJ
Newcastle and North Tyneside HA
445
QDK
North Cumbria HA
240
QDL
South Humber HA
460
QDM
Northumberland HA
378
QDN
Sunderland HA
286
QDP
Tees HA
647
QDQ
Wakefield HA
371
QDR
North Yorkshire HA
808
QDT
Calderdale and Kirklees HA
404
QDV
Cornwall and Isles of Scilly HA
417
QDW
Dorset HA
627
QDX
North and East Devon HA
493
QDY
Gloucestershire HA
593
QEA
Coventry HA
393
QEC
Dudley HA
309
QED
Herefordshire HA
250
QEE
Sandwell HA
148
QEF
Shropshire HA
554
QEH
North Staffordshire HA
236
QEJ
South Staffordshire HA
319
QEK
Walsall HA
206
QEL
Warwickshire HA
406
QEM
Wolverhampton HA
185
QEN
Worcestershire HA
435
QEP
East and North Hertfordshire HA
318
QEQ
West Hertfordshire HA
254
QER
Cambridge HA
1,046
QET
Norfolk HA
981

JohnL

1,763 posts

272 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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There're probably more people in Essex than in Wales - the numbers need to be compared against population, and indeed vehicle miles travelled.

Got any figures for Scotland?
IIRC we have the highest death toll per capita in the UK - especially in the central belt - yet (it seems to me) fewer poeple speed.

There's a lesson in there somewhere, if I'm right (but check, don't take it on faith!)

madcop

6,649 posts

270 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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The other thing not pointed out is that there are a huge number of people that exceed the limits compared to the number of badly maintained vehicles on the road. They only produced prosecution figures and not defect rectification figures as well.

V8thunder

27,646 posts

265 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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They really need to think about bringing the speed limits in line with continental Europe if any of their 'EU Integration' bollocks is to be believed. Also, I'm sure it costs the government a hell of a lot more in revenue installing anti-speeding equipment than is does to catch burglars, rapists, drug dealers etc. A report in the Guardian today said that speed cameras weren't working to cut down accidents, but the government and the numpty groups all said that speeding was the primary cause of all road accidents! They also made the ABD and other pro-motoring groups out to be the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. I would warn all motorists to watch out for red tape on the roads, and make your comments heard. It amazes me how the government can formulate policies to cater for god-knows-how-many minority groups, yet when considering that 85% of the electorate with cars, they seem rather discriminatory.

roger brown

55 posts

268 months

Tuesday 29th October 2002
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It just goes to show that "speeding offences" which presumably means Gatso related 'offences' are all about revenue. How else can you account for Staffordshire's 165.000 odd speeding count? Are we all such dreadful 'criminals' up here. I'm deeply offended and yes I've been 'nabbed' by a Gatso for driving at 53 mph on an empty rural road, late evening, designated 40 mph (who by? why? on what basis?). Safety? Rubbish.

CarZee

13,382 posts

274 months

Tuesday 29th October 2002
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all of these figures are utterly meaningless without some context..

we need figures for each of the last 5 years to see the overall trend... also we need to know the number of miles driven by the number of cars in each county..

They might as well be made up..