Communists party members threaten musician in London

Communists party members threaten musician in London

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pistonheader no-312

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725 posts

291 months

Monday 22nd January
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Fast forward to 9mins to see beginning of interaction.

Interesting incident in London the other day. Having seen what communist party members got up to in Manchester he got off lucky!
Not sure I agree with BTP person's initial approach towards Brendan however seemed to calm down once he stuck to his guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65iwnI2hjAA

PS I'm assuming Chinese communists party members / state media based on what I saw/heard but could be wrong. If they're British citizen or from elsewhere just as unacceptable. Not just American exceptionalism we have to put up with now smile

PPS Manchester incident where Chinese staff attack protesters I'm referring to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8fmszE2UQw

Edited by pistonheader no-312 on Monday 22 January 13:44

williamp

19,553 posts

280 months

Monday 22nd January
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It is odd these days, but their first thought is increasingly common., If you didn't want to be filmed, simply move away would be the sensible approach

...but no. They needed to get the piano player to stop filming. They needed to cause a fuss. Someone else needed to change to suit them.

Typical millennial, eh!

LimmerickLad

2,116 posts

22 months

Monday 22nd January
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Absoulutely amazing world we now live in.

Zephyr Speedshop

2,398 posts

161 months

Monday 22nd January
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williamp said:
It is odd these days, but their first thought is increasingly common., If you didn't want to be filmed, simply move away would be the sensible approach

...but no. They needed to get the piano player to stop filming. They needed to cause a fuss. Someone else needed to change to suit them.

Typical millennial, eh!
yeah weird, there not ven on camera till they approch him.

insteresting that one police officer states immidetly, that hes free to film. and the other is asking for him to stop recording?

Responder.First

124 posts

10 months

Monday 22nd January
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Zephyr Speedshop said:
yeah weird, there not ven on camera till they approch him.

insteresting that one police officer states immidetly, that hes free to film. and the other is asking for him to stop recording?
Why is that surprising to you, a law degree and certain level of understanding of basic law is not a perquisite for joining the UK Police as I understand it.

The first BTPO was spot on, its a public place, a train station and no one has any right to privacy, the second Female BTPO seems to object initially as she would rather she was not filmed, which is rather odd as she has a BWV Camera and would do the same to others.

Then later she tries to make some argument that the Chinese Nationals are employed by a company and therefore he (DR K) should film them for YouTube and make financial gain from it, again a pretty ill-informed statement.

yellowjack

17,258 posts

173 months

Monday 22nd January
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Interesting...

Speculation that one of the people in the Chinese party may have been a "handler" and potentially armed. . . ?

Evanivitch

22,066 posts

129 months

Monday 22nd January
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yellowjack said:
Interesting...
Speculation that one of the people in the Chinese party may have been a "handler" and potentially armed. . . ?
laugh Yeah, no.

yellowjack

17,258 posts

173 months

Monday 22nd January
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Evanivitch said:
yellowjack said:
Interesting...
Speculation that one of the people in the Chinese party may have been a "handler" and potentially armed. . . ?
laugh Yeah, no.
Don't shoot the messenger. It's interesting, though, to read the comments under the original video. Plenty to be bewildered about. This nonsense needs clamping down on, imho. ACPO (or whatever the senior police officers' trade association is calling itself this week) need to strongly communicate the legal guidance about filming in public to rank & file officers. Police officers should be happy to be filmed going about their duties, because if they are acting within the law and within guidelines they have absolutely nothing to fear from it. And any halfwit banging on about their right to not be filmed/photographed in a public place needs putting firmly in their place. On the other side of things, anyone clearly harassing another person by specifically singling them out for filming needs to be left in no doubt that freedom to film doesn't mean freedom to harass. I'm a bit of an amateur photographer, and I've been told "you're not allowed to take pictures of this/that/us/them"* in the past, when that has clearly not been the case. Film set security guards have been the worst, seemingly believing that their authority extends to persons outside the area they have fenced off to film in.

Foss62

1,182 posts

72 months

Monday 22nd January
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The whole thing seemed peculiar. The piano player initially suggested that they were Japanese, and that the friend (who also played the piano and sang a Blues song) was something to do with them - I thought he might have been their tour guide at one point.
To be maybe fairer than I should be, the player probably did appear to approach them first - he asked the girl if she wanted to dance at one point (nothing wrong with that of course).
I wonder if they were on some sort of official business and were somewhere they shouldn’t have been? They obviously weren’t in tune with western behavioural norms - a polite request may well have led to them being removed from the footage. The ridiculous scene they created instead must have had the piano player thinking that all his You Tube Christmases had come at once smile.

Master Bean

4,007 posts

127 months

Monday 22nd January
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Jump to 16:22. There's irony there I think.

BertBert

19,682 posts

218 months

Monday 22nd January
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yellowjack said:
Interesting...

Speculation that one of the people in the Chinese party may have been a "handler" and potentially armed. . . ?
What is a "handler" in this circumstance then?

DaveCWK

2,098 posts

181 months

Monday 22nd January
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They're holding the Chinese flag, not the 'communist flag'

Seems like he just wound them up and got a bit of a bite.

Super Sonic

7,230 posts

61 months

Monday 22nd January
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Camera shy people being conspicuous on camera!

Dingu

4,345 posts

37 months

Monday 22nd January
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williamp said:
It is odd these days, but their first thought is increasingly common., If you didn't want to be filmed, simply move away would be the sensible approach

...but no. They needed to get the piano player to stop filming. They needed to cause a fuss. Someone else needed to change to suit them.

Typical millennial, eh!
I’ve seen more stubborn entitled old farts tbh.

yellowjack

17,258 posts

173 months

Monday 22nd January
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BertBert said:
yellowjack said:
Interesting...

Speculation that one of the people in the Chinese party may have been a "handler" and potentially armed. . . ?
What is a "handler" in this circumstance then?
Only thing I can think of is a) intelligence service "asset" handler. Or b) individuals who may be considered a defection risk might be supervised/accompanied by some sort of communist party political officer to prevent defection and ensure the group present themselves in the "proper manner".
I can't speak from a strong position of knowledge regarding China, and the modern Chinese Communist Party, but I've had dealings in the dim and distant past with Warsaw Pact and former Warsaw Pact military personnel (professional soldiers) being escorted and supervised by "party officials" in uniform embedded in the group. It's all a big game, and a bit of a farce if you ask me.

yellowjack

17,258 posts

173 months

Monday 22nd January
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DaveCWK said:
They're holding the Chinese flag, not the 'communist flag'

Seems like he just wound them up and got a bit of a bite.
The Chinese national flag is entirely made up of Communist Party symbols, though. Trying to separate them one from the other isn't possible given that there isn't any political alternative to the Communist Party in mainland China.

Evanivitch

22,066 posts

129 months

Monday 22nd January
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DaveCWK said:
They're holding the Chinese flag, not the 'communist flag'

Seems like he just wound them up and got a bit of a bite.
From Taiwans perspective it's definitely the communist flag.

"The red represents the Chinese Communist Revolution. The five stars and their relationships to each other represent the unity of four social classes of Chinese people, symbolized by four smaller stars, under the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), symbolized by the large star."

KAgantua

4,241 posts

138 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Streisand effect in full effect.

Why are we pandering to CCP members in this country?

juice

8,860 posts

289 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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"We don't want our voice or picture being filmed"

Then why the hell did you walk up to someone who is holding a camera and obviously filming ? Are they being deliberately thick ?

LimmerickLad

2,116 posts

22 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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juice said:
"We don't want our voice or picture being filmed"

Then why the hell did you walk up to someone who is holding a camera and obviously filming ? Are they being deliberately thick ?
Not forgetting walking around carrying Chinese flags and drawing attention to themselves.........why?