I apprehend a Burglar

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e600

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1,360 posts

158 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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A rather scruffy individual was casing our house from our rear garden! I confronted him and held him until police arrived following my wife’s 999 call.

In discussion with him whilst waiting for police he explained he was a bird watcher and followed birds to the extent he would enter people’s property to view them!

He was Polish and homeless and occasionally sleeps in hostels but mostly sleeps rough. He had a small rucksack and bumbag. He came across as “not all there”

He was interested in my FFRR which is on on private plate, asking if was electric and trying to determine the year.

Once police arrived, arrested and handcuffed him he admitted several arrests for this very thing. He was carted off to the local nick.

When a wpc returned she explained that organised criminal gangs exploit such individuals to gather intel for a possible future visit!

So, be aware if you have some poor vacant looking individual on your property, report it and be
Extra vigilant going forward.

Rangie now in garage, keys in a faraday box, steering lock fitted and keyless disabled.


Huff

3,216 posts

197 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Good outcome - well done - but also a sad story in the wider view.

fourstardan

4,877 posts

150 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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What a horrible experience, and now you are never going to feel safe in your own home.

Organised crime seems to be rotting every part of decent society now as well.


Panamax

4,812 posts

40 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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fourstardan said:
rotting every part of decent society now as well.
Now there's a concept.

normalbloke

7,633 posts

225 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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I’m going to get arrested on my own property..

ChimpanZoe

4,522 posts

85 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Interesting story ,not one I was expecting to read .

Secret lemonade drinker

812 posts

56 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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e600 said:
A rather scruffy individual was casing our house from our rear garden! I confronted him and held him until police arrived following my wife’s 999 call.

In discussion with him whilst waiting for police he explained he was a bird watcher and followed birds to the extent he would enter people’s property to view them!

He was Polish and homeless and occasionally sleeps in hostels but mostly sleeps rough. He had a small rucksack and bumbag. He came across as “not all there”

He was interested in my FFRR which is on on private plate, asking if was electric and trying to determine the year.

Once police arrived, arrested and handcuffed him he admitted several arrests for this very thing. He was carted off to the local nick.

When a wpc returned she explained that organised criminal gangs exploit such individuals to gather intel for a possible future visit!

So, be aware if you have some poor vacant looking individual on your property, report it and be
Extra vigilant going forward.

Rangie now in garage, keys in a faraday box, steering lock fitted and keyless disabled.
If you have a car they are willing to go to such lengths to steal, leave the keys somewhere obvious near the door. Let them take it

ChimpanZoe

4,522 posts

85 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Secret lemonade drinker said:
If you have a car they are willing to go to such lengths to steal, leave the keys somewhere obvious near the door. Let them take it
The stairs dominators of PH won't agree with that .
They're all dead hard !

Mr_Megalomaniac

870 posts

72 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Thanks OP and well done!

sutoka

4,702 posts

114 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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ChimpanZoe said:
Secret lemonade drinker said:
If you have a car they are willing to go to such lengths to steal, leave the keys somewhere obvious near the door. Let them take it
The stairs dominators of PH won't agree with that .
They're all dead hard !
A workmate of mine confronted a car thief a few months ago, caught him in the hallway the thief had some sort of metal bar and demanded the keys to his Golf R.

What happened next was verified by the police who watched the CCTV. You see a key which is dud land outside the front door, when thief turn around to pick them up, my mate gives him the biggest whack with a baseball bat before holding him down.

That guy while think twice before attempting that again, although he's out of bail. Plod came around 'for a chat' and challenged the mate if he thought defending his property with reasonable force was justified. No charges but he did attend the station with his solicitor a few days later.

Grumps.

8,989 posts

42 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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I love a good story.

Greendubber

13,686 posts

209 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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sutoka said:
ChimpanZoe said:
Secret lemonade drinker said:
If you have a car they are willing to go to such lengths to steal, leave the keys somewhere obvious near the door. Let them take it
The stairs dominators of PH won't agree with that .
They're all dead hard !
A workmate of mine confronted a car thief a few months ago, caught him in the hallway the thief had some sort of metal bar and demanded the keys to his Golf R.

What happened next was verified by the police who watched the CCTV. You see a key which is dud land outside the front door, when thief turn around to pick them up, my mate gives him the biggest whack with a baseball bat before holding him down.

That guy while think twice before attempting that again, although he's out of bail. Plod came around 'for a chat' and challenged the mate if he thought defending his property with reasonable force was justified. No charges but he did attend the station with his solicitor a few days later.
To have a spare dud key, a baseball bat to hand and the mindset to coordinate all of that at the exact same someone's stood in the hallway with a weapon really is unbelievable stuff.

48Valves

2,127 posts

215 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Greendubber said:
sutoka said:
ChimpanZoe said:
Secret lemonade drinker said:
If you have a car they are willing to go to such lengths to steal, leave the keys somewhere obvious near the door. Let them take it
The stairs dominators of PH won't agree with that .
They're all dead hard !
A workmate of mine confronted a car thief a few months ago, caught him in the hallway the thief had some sort of metal bar and demanded the keys to his Golf R.

What happened next was verified by the police who watched the CCTV. You see a key which is dud land outside the front door, when thief turn around to pick them up, my mate gives him the biggest whack with a baseball bat before holding him down.

That guy while think twice before attempting that again, although he's out of bail. Plod came around 'for a chat' and challenged the mate if he thought defending his property with reasonable force was justified. No charges but he did attend the station with his solicitor a few days later.
To have a spare dud key, a baseball bat to hand and the mindset to coordinate all of that at the exact same someone's stood in the hallway with a weapon really is unbelievable stuff.
I’m sure it will work out well for for the R owner when 4 guys turn up next time. Or follow the chap away from his house to take the car. It’s not worth putting yourself in this situation over a car.

Alickadoo

2,157 posts

29 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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I expect most Rage Rover owners would be delighted if burglars could manage to get their car running and actually drive it away.

TGCOTF-dewey

5,709 posts

61 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Scruffy looking and vacant...

There are going to be a few PH husband and wife stand-up meetings without coffee, when the wife finds her husband stood over their unconscious teenage son on the phone to the police.


Griffith4ever

4,592 posts

41 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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48Valves said:
. It’s not worth putting yourself in this situation over a car.
You could also say giving into it only encourages it.

I'm not leaving my car keys on a plate for theives.

nb: I also accept their has to be a compromise. I had to watch 4 "youths" walk off with a scooter of mine in London when they threatened me ("come on then!" was their response). I'm not stupid (or a tough guy)

AWRacing

1,730 posts

231 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Secret lemonade drinker said:
If you have a car they are willing to go to such lengths to steal, leave the keys somewhere obvious near the door. Let them take it
^^This.
i dont understand the people who take their keys up to bed with them, last think i'd want is the s in my room looking for the keys

hunt123

282 posts

67 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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AWRacing said:
Secret lemonade drinker said:
If you have a car they are willing to go to such lengths to steal, leave the keys somewhere obvious near the door. Let them take it
^^This.
i dont understand the people who take their keys up to bed with them, last think i'd want is the s in my room looking for the keys
I appreciate making easy to find your keys is probably the sensible thing to do, i won't do it though, i sleep with my keys right next to my bed so i'd have to get woken up. it's not about being "hard", it's about not giving in. i'm not saying i wouldn't comply with a demand to give them my keys, i'm not sure what i'd do in that horrible situation. i might lose it with them or give in, idk. but i'm not a fan of making it easy for them.

fred bloggs

1,344 posts

206 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Secret lemonade drinker said:
. Let them take it
F**k it. Just give it to them. Or just dont even buy it , just withdraw cash from the bank and hand it to the thieves .

Let them take it. What a silly thing to say.

123DWA

1,373 posts

109 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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fred bloggs said:
F**k it. Just give it to them. Or just dont even buy it , just withdraw cash from the bank and hand it to the thieves .

Let them take it. What a silly thing to say.
I have a friend who used to say things like that, until he got a knife through the palm of his hand trying to stop somebody who broke into his house to take his RS7. He now has very limited movement in his left hand and leaves his keys hanging on a hook by the front door.