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leszekg

Original Poster:

263 posts

274 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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Anyone out there forked out the £20 for this book which claims to be able to get you off just about any traffic offence? I've seen it advertised in various magazines and papers in the past but am a bit sceptical as to whether it lives up to its claims. Has anyone here got it and used it?

relaxitscool

368 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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Waste of time, just do a search on here. Between, Madcop, John and myself we've probably told you everything you need to know anyway

Rob

hertsbiker

6,371 posts

278 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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Thanks chaps. You will be remembered!

kevinday

12,275 posts

287 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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I do not see how a book can get you off if you have been caught at, say, 110 in a 60 zone. As Relax says, our resident 'knowledge and advice bank' has already given as many pointers as should be needed.

Edited twice through lack of brain input this early in the morning!
>> Edited by kevinday on Friday 25th October 07:09

>> Edited by kevinday on Friday 25th October 07:10

soulpatch

4,693 posts

265 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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Plus, it would have to be revised every 5 minutes. Whenever a loophole is exposed the lawless c**ts who make us believe that we live in a democratic country just close it again.

They have proabably brought the book, gone through it, and closed every loophole.

leszekg

Original Poster:

263 posts

274 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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Thanks for the replies - much as I anticipated. But has anyone ever come across and read it? It sounds like a bit of a rip-off and I've no intention to buy it ... though they claim to offer a 90 money back guarantee if it doesn't prove useful.

CarZee

13,382 posts

274 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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My father in law has a copy & the comments above are correct in that it's no use to those of us who read PH and can pick up advice from Mad, Relax etc.

However, for anyone else, it really does represent value for money IMO - there is good general advice in there and when a legal situation changes they post out updates/amendments.

£20 is a bit steep though - ISTR it was still only a tenner when he bought it last year.

I think I've commented on this before - I'm sure tehre's a thread about it if you search back a bit..

Edited to say: the main thrust of the book is not exploiting legal loopholes, but advice about how to 'make progress' without drawing attention to yourself, how to conduct yourself if you're stopped by the police and basically how make sure you can exercise your rights and are not being summarily deprived of them by procedural error on the part of police/ticket office/cps etc..

>> Edited by CarZee on Friday 25th October 11:34

madcop

6,649 posts

270 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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If any PHer has a legal dilemna if they post the problem on the forum, either relaxitscool,John Robson, myself or a combination of, or someone else in the know will point you in the right direction. We are not qualified lawyers but know where to go to post advice re various legislation and procedure.

Bobthebench is certainly the guy to take advice from. (even though he is in a foreign realm )

I cannot guarantee that you will particularly like the reply you receive but it may help you out of a hole.

The bonus is it will cost you nothing

bobthebench

398 posts

270 months

Sunday 27th October 2002
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Rumour has it there might be a free web-site doing this kind of stuff, soon as I can work out how to register a site anonymously so the bosses can't trace it.

In the words of Shaw Taylor, that's showing my age, "Keep 'em peeled !"

Harris_I

3,237 posts

266 months

Sunday 27th October 2002
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One more thing. I bought the book many years ago, and as I remember, one of the main pieces of advice when stopped was admit nothing if you knew you were technically speeding (even if it is 71 in a 70).

My own personal experience has taught me this is rubbish. I have been stopped 4 or 5 times by the police and on each occasion have eaten humble pie and engaged in a constructive discussion with the officer, whilst admitting my guilt (and stupidity). On each occasion, I have been sent on my way with a warning.

If it's worked for me that many times, I am sure it is better than either a) keeping my mouth shut, b) arguing my case, or c) saying "why aren't you out catching real criminals?"

outlaw

1,893 posts

273 months

Sunday 27th October 2002
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bobthebench said: Rumour has it there might be a free web-site doing this kind of stuff, soon as I can work out how to register a site anonymously so the bosses can't trace it.

In the words of Shaw Taylor, that's showing my age, "Keep 'em peeled !"


not too hard bullshit name and a free host

how much space you need
plus use a free directer service and dont rejister a domain.

Hardcore2000

788 posts

278 months

Sunday 27th October 2002
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Admitting guilt can be a real arse if the cop your dealing with is an arse. I got a 30 day ban for technically admitting guilt.

hertsbiker

6,371 posts

278 months

Sunday 27th October 2002
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I think that admitting nothing is a very good idea. I tried to banter my way out of a white-line crossing, and it got me no where. So I took it to court and won... perhaps by not drawing attention to yourself by grovelling, you will disappear more into the mountain of paperwork & thus get away with any old story come court hearing day....

C