Jailed for pushing a cyclist under a car

[jm doc]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...

Partially sighted and with cerebral palsy, pedestrian sent to jail for being on a pavement at the same time as an incompetent and dangerous cyclist.

Discuss

[LunarOne]

We already are, at https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[matchmaker]

jm doc said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...

Partially sighted and with cerebral palsy, pedestrian sent to jail for being on a pavement at the same time as an incompetent and dangerous cyclist.

Discuss

Incompetent and dangerous cyclist? Where does it say that about the unfortunate cyclist who was on a shared pavement?

[jm doc]

LunarOne said:

We already are, at https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Thought it fitted well in SP&L, don't go on those other forums tbh

[jm doc]

matchmaker said:

jm doc said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...

Partially sighted and with cerebral palsy, pedestrian sent to jail for being on a pavement at the same time as an incompetent and dangerous cyclist.

Discuss

Incompetent and dangerous cyclist? Where does it say that about the unfortunate cyclist who was on a shared pavement?

Fell off her bike trying to pass a disabled pedestrian, and hit a car. Do you think the driver was unharmed?

Where cars and bikes share the same space, driver now always guilty if hits cyclist

[Terminator X]

What about the latest Highway Code, surely cyclist responsible for protecting pedestrian?

TX.

[LimmerickLad]

Terminator X said:

What about the latest Highway Code, surely cyclist responsible for protecting pedestrian?

TX.

Indeed - If vehicles have a duty to allow a minimum distance when passing a bike then does it not follow the bike has the same duty towards a pedestrian?

[Tom8]

Isn't there a hierarchy for traffic related stuff for vulnerability, trucks/buses, vans, cars, motor bikes bikes and pedestrians the most protected? Terrible incident but i hate cyclists on the pavement they are dangerous. They have cycle lanes, roads, all laws protect them irrespective of their behaviour now they also have priority over pedestrians?

[monthou]

jm doc said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...

Partially sighted and with cerebral palsy, pedestrian sent to jail for being on a pavement at the same time as an incompetent and dangerous cyclist.

Discuss

There's some top quality victim blaming going on there.
If that was your mum pushed under a car I'd imagine you might feel differently about it.

[jfdi]

LimmerickLad said:

Indeed - If vehicles have a duty to allow a minimum distance when passing a bike then does it not follow the bike has the same duty towards a pedestrian?

Not when the pedestrian stands in the way of the cyclist waving her arms around then pushes her into the road. The cyclist was 77, staying safe out the way of the traffic. Not some youth wheelieing down the pavement terrorising pedestrians.
She could have easily stepped to the side and allowed the cyclist to pass and everyone would have had a nice day. Totally the right verdict in my opinion.

[Castrol for a knave]

jm doc said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...

Partially sighted and with cerebral palsy, pedestrian sent to jail for being on a pavement at the same time as an incompetent and dangerous cyclist.

Discuss

You missed out "woke".

3/10 could do better.

[Dingu]

jm doc said:

Thought it fitted well in SP&L, don't go on those other forums tbh

You would fit in well with a posting style displayed in your opening post.

[jm doc]

monthou said:

jm doc said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...

Partially sighted and with cerebral palsy, pedestrian sent to jail for being on a pavement at the same time as an incompetent and dangerous cyclist.

Discuss

There's some top quality victim blaming going on there.
If that was your mum pushed under a car I'd imagine you might feel differently about it.

Yep top quality victim-blaming a disabled pedestrian lawfully going about her business WALKING on a PAVEMENT. There was no pushing, there was no blocking.

[Dingu]

jm doc said:

Where cars and bikes share the same space, driver now always guilty if hits cyclist

Demonstrably untrue in the case you have invited us to discuss

[LimmerickLad]

jfdi said:

LimmerickLad said:

Indeed - If vehicles have a duty to allow a minimum distance when passing a bike then does it not follow the bike has the same duty towards a pedestrian?

Not when the pedestrian stands in the way of the cyclist waving her arms around then pushes her into the road. The cyclist was 77, staying safe out the way of the traffic. Not some youth wheelieing down the pavement terrorising pedestrians.
She could have easily stepped to the side and allowed the cyclist to pass and everyone would have had a nice day. Totally the right verdict in my opinion.

The linked Article in the OP never said anything about a "push" that I can see.

...."shouted an expletive and gestured in an "aggressive way" towards Celia Ward, who fell into the path of a car in Huntingdon in 2020."

[jm doc]

Dingu said:

jm doc said:

Where cars and bikes share the same space, driver now always guilty if hits cyclist

Demonstrably untrue in the case you have invited us to discuss

The driver in this case wasn't sharing the same space. Is that easier for you to understand?

[MustangGT]

jm doc said:

Yep top quality victim-blaming a disabled pedestrian lawfully going about her business WALKING on a PAVEMENT. There was no pushing, there was no blocking.

I do not know what video you were watching, but, the video in the link clearly shows the blocking and pushing. Absolutely the correct verdict.

[jm doc]

LimmerickLad said:

jfdi said:

LimmerickLad said:

Indeed - If vehicles have a duty to allow a minimum distance when passing a bike then does it not follow the bike has the same duty towards a pedestrian?

Not when the pedestrian stands in the way of the cyclist waving her arms around then pushes her into the road. The cyclist was 77, staying safe out the way of the traffic. Not some youth wheelieing down the pavement terrorising pedestrians.
She could have easily stepped to the side and allowed the cyclist to pass and everyone would have had a nice day. Totally the right verdict in my opinion.

The linked Article in the OP never said anything about a "push" that I can see.

There is a video, there is no push

[Dingu]

jm doc said:

Dingu said:

jm doc said:

Where cars and bikes share the same space, driver now always guilty if hits cyclist

Demonstrably untrue in the case you have invited us to discuss

The driver in this case wasn't sharing the same space. Is that easier for you to understand?

You are still wrong.

This is a peak pistonheads thread started by someone with too much time on their hands and not enough prior thought.

It’s like you are answering an exam question at school to write with the style and accuracy of the Daily Mail.

[monthou]

jm doc said:

monthou said:

jm doc said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...

Partially sighted and with cerebral palsy, pedestrian sent to jail for being on a pavement at the same time as an incompetent and dangerous cyclist.

Discuss

There's some top quality victim blaming going on there.
If that was your mum pushed under a car I'd imagine you might feel differently about it.

Yep top quality victim-blaming a disabled pedestrian lawfully going about her business WALKING on a PAVEMENT. There was no pushing, there was no blocking.

The jury saw it differently to you.