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waylander

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35 posts

272 months

Wednesday 9th October 2002
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Progressing nicely up the M40 in the outside lane tonight. Cars ahead of me all doing a similar speed, and the car behind me (with those nice xenon lights!) keeping up.

After a few miles of this i start turning off for my junction and car behind follows and puts his other lights on. Fcuk.

No Officer i don't know why you've pulled me over

It's 70 isn't it

Well sir, you were doing in excess of 110mph. Fcuk

However between the 2 bridges we measured the vehicle with Vascar you were doing 96mph and...

Ended up with a fixed penalty of £60 and 3 points. Very bloody lucky. They'd obviously had a good day and were being lenient... thanks guys

(Decided not to rant about speed cameras causing accidents and why weren't they catching real criminals)

Questions:-
1. The ticket has a code of X570 - vehicle driving in excess of 70mph. Do i need to declare to my insurance company come renewal i was doing 96 or can i just say over 70? (Just wondering whether the amount over the limit affects the premium)

2. Just checked my licence and the address is my old address. Is this going to be a problem for the producer? (everything else is in order)

3. When i said i was just following the cars ahead, they said they had the index of the car ahead and he would be getting a summons/ticket through the post. How likely is this?

thanks

>>> Edited by waylander on Wednesday 9th October 22:08

kevinday

12,275 posts

287 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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IMHO:

1) Don't tell them your actual speed unless they ask, the X570 is probably all they need to know.

2) Maybe, maybe not, sorry not to be more helpful.

3) What does it matter?

spoonman

1,085 posts

268 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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Wrong address on your licence isn't a problem – mine's been out of date for about five years, and the police have never even grumbled when I've been to produce.
They'll not get me to carry a photograph ID card that easily.
In fact, my girlfriend's licence is registered to where she lived several houses ago – and they didn't even change it when they added points to her licence.

Editied because I seem to have sausage fingers today

>> Edited by spoonman on Thursday 10th October 09:09

plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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Isnt holding a driving license with the wrong address on a fineable offence?

Whether or not its enforced I dont know but I was sure it was an offence.

I may well have dreamt it though.

Matt.

>> Edited by plotloss on Thursday 10th October 14:36

CarZee

13,382 posts

274 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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You're right Matt - I've 'got away with it' once or twice, but it is definitely an offence..

griff2be

5,090 posts

274 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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It is a finable offence and I have heard of it being enforced. Something like £1,000. Which would make your eyes water. Just think - you could have half a Cerbera clutch for that!

What is wrong with having a driving licence with a photo on it? It's only a bit of laminated card. There is no magnetic strip on it containing your life history.

andrewh

467 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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Having the wrong adress on your license is stupid. What if you lost it and someone tried to post it back to you or it was some kind of emergency.

s_willy

9,699 posts

281 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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What is an X570? I got an SP30 for doing 104 mph.

x777cat

12 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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Never heard of X570, this maybe a force thing?

The ones I know about are....

SP30 = Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public road.

SP40 = Exceeding passenger vehicle speed limit.

SP50 = Exceeding speed limit on a motorway

SP60 = Undefined speed limit offence.


bobthebench

398 posts

270 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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No DVLA code of X570. Long time since I studied one but would guess it's cop number. X Division representing traffic, 570 being the officer.

As for insurance, only answer what they ask, SP50. What speed ? Selective amnesia can be quite a sudden thing, watch out for it - a bit more than you were watching out for that traffic car though.

Moschops

8 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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Not having the correct address etc on your licence - £1000 fine. How could they pass up £1000???

waylander

Original Poster:

35 posts

272 months

Thursday 10th October 2002
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Having the wrong adress on your license is stupid. What if you lost it and someone tried to post it back to you or it was some kind of emergency.





No, driving at high speed at night with a cop car behind you is stupid

I haven't lost the licence, just got the old address on it and i can't think of any dire emergency that would require a driving licence ( a heart bypass perhaps)

Keep thinking of the children though

£1000 - ouch. I'll found out Saturday.

i think i'll just call it an SP50 on renewal and say no speed was mentioned.

thanks

spoonman

1,085 posts

268 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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Having the wrong adress on your license is stupid. What if you lost it and someone tried to post it back to you or it was some kind of emergency.





What kind of emergency, exactly? Like a producer, perhaps? Even car hire companies aren't bothered about it being in the wrong address as long as you've got other ID. And you'll only lose your licence if you take it out of the house with you (or Mr Magistrate relieves you of it).

Honestly, moving house and forgetting to update your driving licence is the least of the police's worries. And, Waylander, it's the least of yours. When you take it in, just apologise and say you didn't realise. You're out of the woods already.

paulbellchambers

39 posts

285 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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I was stopped recently - pretty much the same circumstances. My plastic photo license had the wrong address but the officer made no comment on that. What he did ask for was the paper counterpart. Which surprised me as I thought the plastic was the license. Big mistake!!

The plastic is not a license - the plastic and the paper counterpart are. So we now have 2 items that make up a driving license not one as before - progress uh?

So I present my plastic card at the local cop shop and the officer has has to caution me for not having the paper counterpart and report me. They take my plastic license and send it off to the force that issued the FPN.
I then get a snotty letter from them but no help or instructions on what I should do. I check with the DVLA. I need to fill in a D1 or something and send £17 pound for the priiviledge of getting a replacement paper counterpart and a new plastic with my current address. In the meantime the Hampshire Constabulary have my plastic license. So I have to get that back to send it off to the DVLA to get the replacements.

So far so good, the DVLA have returned my paperwork and I will now sent it off to Hampshire plod.

Question: Why have we moved to a plastic license that is not a license?
Answer: it was the only way the government could introduce an ID card.

It is a pity that the plastic card is not a smart card (the DVLA have all info on a computer so why we need paper part to the license I dont know). The replacement card had all my details including the original photo and my signature (electronically stored). This would make the whole process of FPN easy - one swipe and the plod can enter the points plus they could take a credit card swipe at the same time.

Fer

7,734 posts

287 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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This would make the whole process of FPN easy - one swipe and the plod can enter the points plus they could take a credit card swipe at the same time.



And they could modify cash points to take them too!

(Sorry, facetious response brought on by lack of caffine!)

ajvmoore

170 posts

286 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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Here's a good one - I thought I heard somewhere that you dont have to answer a question where your answer is likely to incriminate you - so when the Blue Bandit asks you your speed, if it was over the limit - what should you do? - if you say '90 occifer' then you're done, but if you say ' not telling' then you will also be done for some other trumped up thing out of spite more than likely. What is all this utter nonsense about speed? - lets get on the case of crap drivers - who are very often slow/half sighted/ignorant of the highway code/inconsiderate of road conditions/drunk/dont know where the 'fog lights off' button is. We the drivers are actually a major part of 'the society' that the idiot police policy makers are supposed to be working for.
This rant will never be over - its all wrong!!! Speed doesnt kill - idiots do. (feel bit better now)

CarZee

13,382 posts

274 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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ajvmoore said:This rant will never be over - its all wrong!!! Speed doesnt kill - idiots do.
Amen, Brother

hertsbiker

6,371 posts

278 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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NEVER say what your speed is.

ASK them how fast they "think" you were going. It's their problem to prove it, sometimes you can be pulle don suspicion of speeding, if you admit to something in excess of the limit you are in the shite, and they don't need to prove a thing as you have confessed.

Or just pick a speed less than 15mpg over the limit, as this is only 3 points. What they going to do? shoot you? remember than anyhting you say WILL* be used against you if it makes up the figures for that month.

rgds.

* with the exception of a few really nice coppers out there who don't think that XX speed on a dry empty road is bad.

derekandrewjones

14 posts

270 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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Absolutely Andy

Derek

craigalsop

1,991 posts

275 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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andrewh said: Having the wrong adress on your license is stupid. What if you lost it and someone tried to post it back to you or it was some kind of emergency.

I know of people who have had their wallet stolen with license in it. The license was then used to gain credit. Person was then blacklisted because of defaulted credit-card debt. Took them ages to get off the blacklist. Wouldn't have happened if they didn't have the correct address on their driving license.