Scs threatening court action over £900 of fines
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Hi,
So I recently went home and collected a couple of letters as I’m a student and have moved a couple of hours away and still have my letters sent home! One letter had ‘important do not ignore’ across the top. It was from SCS threatening legal action for a few parking fines in a Sainsburys car park from September 2017 I believe it was euro car parks. Im panicking quite a lot, it says I owe £130 per fine, I didn’t even realise I had these fines. I knew I got a fine from Sainsburys in the post a couple of years ago but paid it. I haven’t had any letters saying that I have these fines from Sainsburys (euro car park) apart from this one! According to the letter I’ve only got 8 days left to respond to the letter otherwise they will be taking me to court for the £900. I’m a student and can’t afford to pay the £900 (they’ve increased the cost of the fine as I didn’t pay it when they first fined me) not sure what to do now as I’ve never been in a position like this before and as a student I’m terrified, I’ve never dealt with something as serious as this! If anyone could help me out with what to do next I’d be so so grateful!
So I recently went home and collected a couple of letters as I’m a student and have moved a couple of hours away and still have my letters sent home! One letter had ‘important do not ignore’ across the top. It was from SCS threatening legal action for a few parking fines in a Sainsburys car park from September 2017 I believe it was euro car parks. Im panicking quite a lot, it says I owe £130 per fine, I didn’t even realise I had these fines. I knew I got a fine from Sainsburys in the post a couple of years ago but paid it. I haven’t had any letters saying that I have these fines from Sainsburys (euro car park) apart from this one! According to the letter I’ve only got 8 days left to respond to the letter otherwise they will be taking me to court for the £900. I’m a student and can’t afford to pay the £900 (they’ve increased the cost of the fine as I didn’t pay it when they first fined me) not sure what to do now as I’ve never been in a position like this before and as a student I’m terrified, I’ve never dealt with something as serious as this! If anyone could help me out with what to do next I’d be so so grateful!
If they are in fact correct in applying the fine and fees, they will still most likely agree to a payment program rather than go to court asking for money you don't have. So try to keep a calm head and go through things methodically.
Go to pepipoo, a forum specifically for navigating parking fines.
If the fines have been wrongly applied they will help you understand how to correct it.
Go to pepipoo, a forum specifically for navigating parking fines.
If the fines have been wrongly applied they will help you understand how to correct it.
Edited by Automaton on Tuesday 1st December 16:48
Well to start with they are invoices, unless from the police or council.
Go to Money supermarket "parking fines" and review the situations there.
Read the letters you have got again, in a calm manner and post again on here with more info, for some general advice.
There are several posters on here who can advise, and there is also the pepipoo website, post on that and take in what they advise.
Go to Money supermarket "parking fines" and review the situations there.
Read the letters you have got again, in a calm manner and post again on here with more info, for some general advice.
There are several posters on here who can advise, and there is also the pepipoo website, post on that and take in what they advise.
Definitely don't pay anything yet!
This is NOT a criminal matter. You are NOT a criminal. SCS and like minded outfits are very keen to frighten people with legal sounding threats and baseless claims of 'fines'.
This may possibly turn into a civil claim. You might be asked to attend a court hearing. If that happens it won't be inside a large courtroom with judges and clerks and a public gallery!
The judge will be friendly and understanding - if it even gets that far.
Let's look at a worst case scenario. They successfully convince a judge you owe an amount of money. Because of your circumstances the judge will very likely ask you to pay a few pounds a month. And that's IF it gets to court and IF you can't put forward a solid defence.
You have much less to worry about than you think! You won't be considered some kind of pariah if you go to court and the judge decides in their favour.
This is NOT a criminal matter. You are NOT a criminal. SCS and like minded outfits are very keen to frighten people with legal sounding threats and baseless claims of 'fines'.
This may possibly turn into a civil claim. You might be asked to attend a court hearing. If that happens it won't be inside a large courtroom with judges and clerks and a public gallery!
The judge will be friendly and understanding - if it even gets that far.
Let's look at a worst case scenario. They successfully convince a judge you owe an amount of money. Because of your circumstances the judge will very likely ask you to pay a few pounds a month. And that's IF it gets to court and IF you can't put forward a solid defence.
You have much less to worry about than you think! You won't be considered some kind of pariah if you go to court and the judge decides in their favour.
Edited by ReverendCounter on Tuesday 1st December 17:18
1. Sources of advice: here is as good a place as any. Other websites mentioned above may contain over complicated advice given by people who know nothing about the law. What follows is a very broad summary, and not a textbook.
2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs (if any) were displayed at the site when you parked there.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs (if any) were displayed at the site when you parked there.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 2nd December 03:05
Breadvan72 said:
1. Sources of advice: here is as good a place as any. Other websites mentioned above may contain over complicated advice given by people who know nothing about the law. What follows is a very broad summary, and not a textbook.
2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs are displayed at the site.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
OP I suggest you take Breadvan up on his kind offer2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs are displayed at the site.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
Jules Sunley said:
Breadvan72 said:
1. Sources of advice: here is as good a place as any. Other websites mentioned above may contain over complicated advice given by people who know nothing about the law. What follows is a very broad summary, and not a textbook.
2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs are displayed at the site.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
OP I suggest you take Breadvan up on his kind offer2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs are displayed at the site.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
And hopefully BV will post up the Latin version of what he suggests the OP sends in plain English, just for giggles so we can all admire it and regurgitate it as sound advice to others for years to come
Breadvan72 said:
We could have a competition to write the best Freeman on the Land letter. The one with the most wibble wins an out of date copy of "Maritime Law for Dummies - Colouring in edition".
Admiral Of The Fleet(of shonky old heaps) Breadvan72. 
A cheap blazer with those horrid bright 'brass' buttons and a Napoleon cocked hat required for the full effect. Is there a dress code for baristas these days? Would beaks have you held in contempt for wearing a silly hat in court?Breadvan72 said:
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice.
Top banana !!! Edited by Breadvan72 on Wednesday 2nd December 03:05
OP take up BV's kind offer !!
Cudd Wudd said:
Jules Sunley said:
Breadvan72 said:
1. Sources of advice: here is as good a place as any. Other websites mentioned above may contain over complicated advice given by people who know nothing about the law. What follows is a very broad summary, and not a textbook.
2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs are displayed at the site.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
OP I suggest you take Breadvan up on his kind offer2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs are displayed at the site.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
And hopefully BV will post up the Latin version of what he suggests the OP sends in plain English, just for giggles so we can all admire it and regurgitate it as sound advice to others for years to come
matchmaker said:
Cudd Wudd said:
Jules Sunley said:
Breadvan72 said:
1. Sources of advice: here is as good a place as any. Other websites mentioned above may contain over complicated advice given by people who know nothing about the law. What follows is a very broad summary, and not a textbook.
2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs are displayed at the site.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
OP I suggest you take Breadvan up on his kind offer2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs are displayed at the site.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
And hopefully BV will post up the Latin version of what he suggests the OP sends in plain English, just for giggles so we can all admire it and regurgitate it as sound advice to others for years to come
Breadvan72 said:
1. Sources of advice: here is as good a place as any. Other websites mentioned above may contain over complicated advice given by people who know nothing about the law. What follows is a very broad summary, and not a textbook.
2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs (if any) were displayed at the site when you parked there.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
You sir are certainly top banana 2. The starting point is to assess whether you have any contractual liability for parking somewhere that operates a charging regime. You can make a contract by conduct, but whether or not you did so depends, in broad summary, on what signs (if any) were displayed at the site when you parked there.
3. Charges additional to the ones displayed on such signs may or may not be recoverable, but all depends on the circumstances of each case.
4. As an Xmas gesture for a poor student, I can have a shufty for you on what is called a pro bono basis. That means that I'm an actual fer real lawyer but can offer you a bit of free advice. PM me the correspondence and I will have a quick look at it and suggest a response that does not cite Magna Carta or contain made up Latin. One or two posters will probably tell you to ignore me and instead take your advice from people who have degrees in advanced pub law from the University of Pub. It's your free choice!
Edited by Breadvan72 on Wednesday 2nd December 03:05
Boosted LS1 said:
What a fantastic offer BV. Thank goodness there isn't a fee :-)
No such thing as a free lunch - his fee is he gets to lecture the op on why the Magna Carta is mostly not applicable to UK law, and makes he go for a ride in an ancient rust bucketOp Take up BV on his offer
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