Carnell private safety camera van...
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My dearly beloved went past one of these today: https://www.carnellgroup.co.uk/solutions/safetycam... she was wondering if they had any relationship to those fine people who dish out fines & points?
Purely for information purposes of course.
Purely for information purposes of course.
This is to protect workers working on the network.
This is not the start of private speed camera fines!
The speed as I understand is not the same as a safety camera van you wont get FNP but the police can use the evidence to speak to the driver and maybe S59 etc. Dangerous careless driving could also happen. Only if there is dangerous incident or occurance.
The speed cameras are also used to monitor authorised drivers within the TM so staff and contractors. There is normally a 5/10/20 mph max speed in tm.
Again if you enter the traffic management the footage could be used by the police to maybe go down the route of dangerous or careless driving.
This is not the start of private speed camera fines!
The speed as I understand is not the same as a safety camera van you wont get FNP but the police can use the evidence to speak to the driver and maybe S59 etc. Dangerous careless driving could also happen. Only if there is dangerous incident or occurance.
The speed cameras are also used to monitor authorised drivers within the TM so staff and contractors. There is normally a 5/10/20 mph max speed in tm.
Again if you enter the traffic management the footage could be used by the police to maybe go down the route of dangerous or careless driving.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 26th July 14:03
surveyor_101 said:
This is to protect workers working on the network.
This is not the start of private speed camera fines!
The speed as I understand is not the same as a safety camera van you wont get FNP but the police can use the evidence to speak to the driver and maybe S59 etc. Dangerous careless driving could also happen.
Again if you enter the traffic management the footage could be used by the police to maybe go down the route of dangerous or careless driving.
Im glad as I went blatting past one last week at 1.30am This is not the start of private speed camera fines!
The speed as I understand is not the same as a safety camera van you wont get FNP but the police can use the evidence to speak to the driver and maybe S59 etc. Dangerous careless driving could also happen.
Again if you enter the traffic management the footage could be used by the police to maybe go down the route of dangerous or careless driving.
Its a sad state of affairs when the government and those agencies / contractors whom fix our roads bleat on about lower speed limits on the main carriageway when there are roadworks but seems that their own staff cant abide by site speed limits that one would have thought was more dangerous than if the other side of the divide.
Not a dig at speed limits at roadworks at all but surely the actual road workers themselves should at least be playing the game once on the 'works' side to protect their colleagues if they expect us on the 'road' side to do the same?
Can imagine that van to be kitted out must be the wrong side of 50k so its obviously an issue that someone is taking seriously.
Not a dig at speed limits at roadworks at all but surely the actual road workers themselves should at least be playing the game once on the 'works' side to protect their colleagues if they expect us on the 'road' side to do the same?
Can imagine that van to be kitted out must be the wrong side of 50k so its obviously an issue that someone is taking seriously.
Any construction contract includes money for what they call "preliminaries", which will include all the site cabins, staff facilities, etc etc (anyone going past the A14 roadworks near Cambridge will know how big that bill can get). Speed monitoring equipment will have been included by the contractors. Given that preliminaries are paid per week, we can start to understand why the A14 stuff is taking 3 and a half years......
Tomo1971 said:
Its a sad state of affairs when the government and those agencies / contractors whom fix our roads bleat on about lower speed limits on the main carriageway when there are roadworks but seems that their own staff cant abide by site speed limits that one would have thought was more dangerous than if the other side of the divide.
Not a dig at speed limits at roadworks at all but surely the actual road workers themselves should at least be playing the game once on the 'works' side to protect their colleagues if they expect us on the 'road' side to do the same?
Can imagine that van to be kitted out must be the wrong side of 50k so its obviously an issue that someone is taking seriously.
trust me it's not really a concern about road workers speeding in the traffic management. It's not an issue and most vans have trackers now. The problems is the amount of clowns who drive into the TM Or do dangerous things.Not a dig at speed limits at roadworks at all but surely the actual road workers themselves should at least be playing the game once on the 'works' side to protect their colleagues if they expect us on the 'road' side to do the same?
Can imagine that van to be kitted out must be the wrong side of 50k so its obviously an issue that someone is taking seriously.
We have incident recently on a 1/2 lane closure where a airport taxi driver in a galaxy was undertaking in lane 2 a car in lane through and crashed through colliding with a I'm truck on the hard shoulder.
When are they going to to stop calling taxi drivers professional drivers. Fully marked up mpv with company logo all over it and the driver is undertaking and missing a sequential taper that's 70 comes with flashing lihhts !
Edited by surveyor_101 on Sunday 29th July 20:42
surveyor_101 said:
We have incident recently on a 1/2 lane closure where a airport taxi driver in a galaxy was undertaking in lane 2 a car in lane through and crashed through colliding with a I'm truck on the hard shoulder.
I have no idea what you were trying to say there.surveyor_101 said:
When are they going to to stop calling taxi drivers professional deivers.!
When they redefine the word "professional".https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/profe...
The OED said:
Engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur.
shep1001 said:
There is one of these on a regular basis on the long slip road off the A12 on the Colchester turn off where they are doing the road works
I always try to at least partially stick to the 40mph speed limit down this one, which feels painfully slow and I usually end up getting tailgated (I assume you mean the one going down to the Spring Lane Roundabout?) I haven't seen one of these enforcement vans yet though. They also have that sign up just after it becomes a 40 telling you your speed, and the people ahead of me are usually doing around 55-60.
surveyor_101 said:
We have incident recently on a 1/2 lane closure where a airport taxi driver in a galaxy was undertaking in lane 2 a car in lane through and crashed through colliding with a I'm truck on the hard shoulder.
When are they going to to stop calling taxi drivers professional drivers. Fully marked up mpv with company logo all over it and the driver is undertaking and missing a sequential taper that's 70 comes with flashing lihhts !
Merging in turn.When are they going to to stop calling taxi drivers professional drivers. Fully marked up mpv with company logo all over it and the driver is undertaking and missing a sequential taper that's 70 comes with flashing lihhts !
Probably the fault of the guy in Lane 2 for not leaving an adequate gap.
Holy thread resurrection, Batman!
Passed one of these vans the other night at a maybe slightly higher speed and got wondering.
It wasn’t in roadworks or near an entry to a set of roadworks, it was on an official diversion route from a set of roadworks parked up on the pavement with cameras poking out the back on a residential type road.
Can a private contractor dish out fines or pass them onto plod to do the necessary?
Passed one of these vans the other night at a maybe slightly higher speed and got wondering.
It wasn’t in roadworks or near an entry to a set of roadworks, it was on an official diversion route from a set of roadworks parked up on the pavement with cameras poking out the back on a residential type road.
Can a private contractor dish out fines or pass them onto plod to do the necessary?
valiant said:
Holy thread resurrection, Batman!
Passed one of these vans the other night at a maybe slightly higher speed and got wondering.
It wasn’t in roadworks or near an entry to a set of roadworks, it was on an official diversion route from a set of roadworks parked up on the pavement with cameras poking out the back on a residential type road.
Can a private contractor dish out fines or pass them onto plod to do the necessary?
Do you have an update on this, valiant? Passed one of these vans the other night at a maybe slightly higher speed and got wondering.
It wasn’t in roadworks or near an entry to a set of roadworks, it was on an official diversion route from a set of roadworks parked up on the pavement with cameras poking out the back on a residential type road.
Can a private contractor dish out fines or pass them onto plod to do the necessary?
I may or may not have gone past one in a non roadworks area that was stopped by the side of the road with orange lights on and now I feel quite sick at the idea of the possible consequences.
leglessAlex said:
valiant said:
Holy thread resurrection, Batman!
Passed one of these vans the other night at a maybe slightly higher speed and got wondering.
It wasn’t in roadworks or near an entry to a set of roadworks, it was on an official diversion route from a set of roadworks parked up on the pavement with cameras poking out the back on a residential type road.
Can a private contractor dish out fines or pass them onto plod to do the necessary?
Do you have an update on this, valiant? Passed one of these vans the other night at a maybe slightly higher speed and got wondering.
It wasn’t in roadworks or near an entry to a set of roadworks, it was on an official diversion route from a set of roadworks parked up on the pavement with cameras poking out the back on a residential type road.
Can a private contractor dish out fines or pass them onto plod to do the necessary?
I may or may not have gone past one in a non roadworks area that was stopped by the side of the road with orange lights on and now I feel quite sick at the idea of the possible consequences.
It is a camera van pure and simple, if the authorities decide to accept the evidence provided by the van then you can guess what happens next.
It is not a big leap for a camera partnership to decide they need more capacity and rent something just like this, especially as the website talks about submissible evidence so the system quality is at the required level.
It is not a big leap for a camera partnership to decide they need more capacity and rent something just like this, especially as the website talks about submissible evidence so the system quality is at the required level.
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