Northants Police can't afford typewriters!
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That's right. Despite thousands of fixed-penalty fines at £60 a pop, Northamptonshire Consultabulary / Clerk to the Justices [sic] can't afford a typewriter or a computer & dot-matrix printer.
Cosmic and I have both had our licences back following our respective SP30's and both of us have had our endorsement written onto our paper counterpart in biro.
IN BIRO, for ****'s sake! Its pathetic, it really is.
Cosmic and I have both had our licences back following our respective SP30's and both of us have had our endorsement written onto our paper counterpart in biro.
IN BIRO, for ****'s sake! Its pathetic, it really is.
quote:Well it may be now, but in the past when we had "proper" driving licences, endorsements would be neatly typed onto your license in an official-looking way, not scrawled on in biro by some junior clerk or secretary.
I thought that was the general form? A load of my mates have SP30's written in Biro on their licenses.
Same thing happened to me - and they also seemed to have firstly done a colour photocopy of my licence and then scrawled in biro on it. Spoke to the DVLA and they said it sounded dodgy and said you can send it through to them and they will reissue it without it looking like a tatty rag.
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Why are you complaining! They are still endorsements aren't they?
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Makes you wonder if they really *are* though, doesn't it. After all. I could write in biro on my licence easily enough...or on someone else's
Presumably the DVLA computer system has a record of the endorsement so if you get a licence reprinted it doesn't wipe off the SP30s....?
If it doesn't....I might have found that the dog's eaten my licence.
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Why are you complaining! They are still endorsements aren't they?
:runsforcoverbehindbridgeparapetwithlidarinhand:
Makes you wonder if they really *are* though, doesn't it. After all. I could write in biro on my licence easily enough...or on someone else's
Presumably the DVLA computer system has a record of the endorsement so if you get a licence reprinted it doesn't wipe off the SP30s....?
If it doesn't....I might have found that the dog's eaten my licence.
:notreallythinkinghemightgetawaywithitactually:
So do what the pikeys do and apply for a duplicate on the day of the offence, then you have a proper endorsed license and a nice clean new one to show the insurance company...
Matt.
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quote:Pikeys have insurance?
So do what the pikeys do and apply for a duplicate on the day of the offence, then you have a proper endorsed license and a nice clean new one to show the insurance company...
Well they keep the new ones to wipe the faces of their snot nosed kids but you get the idea!
Matt.
DVLA do keep a register of all the endorsements put onto licences.
When a person is processed for a traffic offence, the file always has a DVLA computer enquiry report attached to the papers with the whole driver record on it. this goes right back to the initial application for a provisional licence so there is no hiding anything if you have lost your licence and can't produce it.
When a person is processed for a traffic offence, the file always has a DVLA computer enquiry report attached to the papers with the whole driver record on it. this goes right back to the initial application for a provisional licence so there is no hiding anything if you have lost your licence and can't produce it.
You've seen the hassle printers have picking up clean paper, either home printers of those machines that print your cheques, at the 14th time of forcing it through. Who is going to come up with a paper pick up system to cope with folded, dog-eared, umpteen times washed licences that get handed in to court ? Until they do, the only system to cope with any licence regardless of condition is a good old manual one.
Hand written offences on your license is the standard. Consider the hassle setting up a crumpled bit of paper in a typewriter then you know why they are hand written. As to the information , it gets passed on weekly or monthly to DVLA who then add it to your driver record file. Any subsequent licenses issued will have the offences typed on it at the printing.
Bollocks. If they can design a printer than can print onto eggshells (check your local supermarket eggs) and even onto the head of a pint (which they have - it exists, I've seen it), then surely they can come up with a way of endorsing your license without resorting to biro.
I've paid my £60 fine and I expect more than the crappy scrawlings of a recent school leaver on their holiday job wielding a blue biro, FFS.
Of course, if they weren't issuing so many of the bloody things then there might be some hope, but obviously they have such a mountain of lawless criminal n'er-do-wells whose licenses are just waiting to be endorsed that I guess the biro route is the only way to do it.
>> Edited by JonRB on Monday 9th September 22:59
I've paid my £60 fine and I expect more than the crappy scrawlings of a recent school leaver on their holiday job wielding a blue biro, FFS.
Of course, if they weren't issuing so many of the bloody things then there might be some hope, but obviously they have such a mountain of lawless criminal n'er-do-wells whose licenses are just waiting to be endorsed that I guess the biro route is the only way to do it.
>> Edited by JonRB on Monday 9th September 22:59
quote:Yes, like a typewriter. You put the paper in the top (by hand), turn the roller (by hand) and line it up by eye, then type it.
the only system to cope with any licence regardless of condition is a good old manual one.
Of course, it takes longer than scrawling it on with a biro, but looks far more official and "real".
Why am I so het up? Because the whole thing has left such a sour taste in my mouth and the biro scrawl just emphasises what a revenue-collecting factory this whole thing is.
quote:It wouldn't make the points (or the fine) any less agreeable if your licence came back with gold leaf embossed text now would it!
and the biro scrawl just emphasises what a revenue-collecting factory this whole thing is.
I do know what you mean though. Besides, paper licences are on their way out. But do they scrawl on the credit card ones as well I wonder?
quote:I seem to vaguely recall the DVLA "lost" quite a lot of info off their computer system a couple of years ago, so this might not be the case. Anyone got a better memory than I?
this goes right back to the initial application for a provisional licence so there is no hiding anything if you have lost your licence and can't produce it
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