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When we got these locally, there was a story ( scare or what ???) that it alerted the Council CCTV operator who would update Police on vehicle position so a unit could attend . Similar to the story about a local road where folks complained about speeding cars in a 20 . press report a week later- 400 vehicles monitored, a few above the limit, by a few miles per hour and one ticket issued.
Who me said:
When we got these locally, there was a story ( scare or what ???) that it alerted the Council CCTV operator who would update Police on vehicle position so a unit could attend . Similar to the story about a local road where folks complained about speeding cars in a 20 . press report a week later- 400 vehicles monitored, a few above the limit, by a few miles per hour and one ticket issued.
Except they don't measure speedYour local force may have something on their website about ANPR. Dorset does.
https://www.dorset.police.uk/news-information/abou...
Fantastic bit of equipment.
https://www.dorset.police.uk/news-information/abou...
Fantastic bit of equipment.
JonV8V said:
Except they don't measure speed
on their own - no they don't. But - as a network, they have that potential - the camera takes a snap of the plate and if that plate is of interest to the police then they may act on that information. Further down the road you may get snapped by another anpr - this will also have a timestamp. If the distance between the two is known then you have the potential to measure average speed over that distance.the dorset police url from Ki3r gives a good summary of what they are used for - including the ambiguous phrase '[to] improve road safety'.
These cameras are everywhere you turn now. Welcome to 1984. (I don't think my tinfoil hat is going to cut it....)
leighz said:
JonV8V said:
Except they don't measure speed
on their own - no they don't. But - as a network, they have that potential - the camera takes a snap of the plate and if that plate is of interest to the police then they may act on that information. Further down the road you may get snapped by another anpr - this will also have a timestamp. If the distance between the two is known then you have the potential to measure average speed over that distance.the dorset police url from Ki3r gives a good summary of what they are used for - including the ambiguous phrase '[to] improve road safety'.
These cameras are everywhere you turn now. Welcome to 1984. (I don't think my tinfoil hat is going to cut it....)
They ping any local police cars to "stop and check" if they have nothing better to do. It happened to a mate while we were out, computer said no insurance, mate said yes it has, only just got the renewal, copper said "time to consult the PNC, wait here" and after a couple of minutes on the radio he said "yes, fine, you are insured, drive carefully noW" and that was that.
battered said:
They ping any local police cars to "stop and check" if they have nothing better to do. It happened to a mate while we were out, computer said no insurance, mate said yes it has, only just got the renewal, copper said "time to consult the PNC, wait here" and after a couple of minutes on the radio he said "yes, fine, you are insured, drive carefully noW" and that was that.
That doesn't make sense, the ANPR data is checked against the PNC data so the lack of insurance maker would of still been there. It's unlikely the office said ok the computer now says insured. More likely was they checked with the insurer your mate was with and they confirmed it.surveyor_101 said:
battered said:
They ping any local police cars to "stop and check" if they have nothing better to do. It happened to a mate while we were out, computer said no insurance, mate said yes it has, only just got the renewal, copper said "time to consult the PNC, wait here" and after a couple of minutes on the radio he said "yes, fine, you are insured, drive carefully noW" and that was that.
That doesn't make sense, the ANPR data is checked against the PNC data so the lack of insurance maker would of still been there. It's unlikely the office said ok the computer now says insured. More likely was they checked with the insurer your mate was with and they confirmed it.A PNC check will show who the vehicle is insured with and usually if you're covered to drive other vehicles, along with named drivers. A VI check on PNC will also show the insurance history should a policy have been cancelled.
If there is doubt, then an check can be made with the MIB.
ANPR can be made to accept a whole host of parameters, but it boils down to the number of staff you have available to intercept the hits. It also has a vital role in detecting serious crime, but that's not for a public forum. It's certainly not used to detect speed offences.
If there is doubt, then an check can be made with the MIB.
ANPR can be made to accept a whole host of parameters, but it boils down to the number of staff you have available to intercept the hits. It also has a vital role in detecting serious crime, but that's not for a public forum. It's certainly not used to detect speed offences.
Elroy Blue said:
A PNC check will show who the vehicle is insured with and usually if you're covered to drive other vehicles, along with named drivers. A VI check on PNC will also show the insurance history should a policy have been cancelled.
If there is doubt, then an check can be made with the MIB.
ANPR can be made to accept a whole host of parameters, but it boils down to the number of staff you have available to intercept the hits. It also has a vital role in detecting serious crime, but that's not for a public forum. It's certainly not used to detect speed offences.
do you have direct experience of these systems?If there is doubt, then an check can be made with the MIB.
ANPR can be made to accept a whole host of parameters, but it boils down to the number of staff you have available to intercept the hits. It also has a vital role in detecting serious crime, but that's not for a public forum. It's certainly not used to detect speed offences.
ok
My understanding of anpr is that you are looking to track the course of a vehicle, based on the vehicle registration, that may be of interest, or flag up one for lack of insurance or tax on the fly for instance.
Does every single 'hit' on every camera get recorded?
What are the criteria used to decide whether a vehicle is brought to the attention of the authorities? Not looking for specifics, more of an idea.
My understanding of anpr is that you are looking to track the course of a vehicle, based on the vehicle registration, that may be of interest, or flag up one for lack of insurance or tax on the fly for instance.
Does every single 'hit' on every camera get recorded?
What are the criteria used to decide whether a vehicle is brought to the attention of the authorities? Not looking for specifics, more of an idea.
leighz said:
Does every single 'hit' on every camera get recorded?
My understanding is yes, they are recorded somewhere. I've worked with some police forces in tracking missing vehicles and have been told where the vehicles were operating regularly which confirmed they were still on the original plates. It took a little longer to get them onto the PNC with a stolen marker (it was classed as a civil matter initially), but we used our own recovery agent to get some of them back based on the ANPR information. Knowing two of them were on the A34 near Derby most mornings allowed our agent to follow and repo them.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff