Geodesy pile of tat
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Had the use of one of these for two weeks now and can honestly say it is a pile of tat.
No False Alarms: Rubbish, had blinking reds miles from any camera site. Also has trouble working out which direction it's travelling in too, green, red, green, red
12 channel parallel GPS reciever: -er, possibly! My 4 year old Garmin hand-held unit appears more accurate and Geodesy sat lock is also a joke in comparison -red blue, red, blue, red blue, car's like a disco
Rapid warm-up time: no, can drive for miles before the blue light comes on in open country side too
Extensive database: no again, it missed the tempory lights on the M6. They've been there for over 6 months now
-anyone had similar experiences, get the feeling I've wasted £350
No False Alarms: Rubbish, had blinking reds miles from any camera site. Also has trouble working out which direction it's travelling in too, green, red, green, red
12 channel parallel GPS reciever: -er, possibly! My 4 year old Garmin hand-held unit appears more accurate and Geodesy sat lock is also a joke in comparison -red blue, red, blue, red blue, car's like a disco
Rapid warm-up time: no, can drive for miles before the blue light comes on in open country side too
Extensive database: no again, it missed the tempory lights on the M6. They've been there for over 6 months now
-anyone had similar experiences, get the feeling I've wasted £350
Well I'm still happy with mine and wouldn't travel unchartered waters without it, upload is usually instant (10secs max) And usually holds a signal quite well, you do get a bit of a false warning if you are near a camera but not on the same road, and wrong direction warnings, if I was buying now I would go Origin Blue or Road Angel, but I,ve had mine over a year and would have more points without it 
ummm. I would have agreed - until I tried it in a car WITHOUT metallic tinted glass. Then it works instantly, no problems, no signal loss, and plenty of warning.
However, I did have problems with it on my XJR1300 (bike). FOr some reason it didn't work on that.
Suggest you buy the signal booster for complete happiness. NO I@m not an agent, but they have very good customer service.
Carl
However, I did have problems with it on my XJR1300 (bike). FOr some reason it didn't work on that.
Suggest you buy the signal booster for complete happiness. NO I@m not an agent, but they have very good customer service.
Carl
GPS only works if the aerial has got an almost completely unobstructed view of the sky. Put your hand over it, or any metal item, and it is screwed. If you haven't got a good signal lock, the software probably thinks you're darting all over the country at Mach 7 and passing some cameras on the way. If you can get an external aerial for Geodesy its probably worth a go.
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until I tried it in a car WITHOUT metallic tinted glass.
Yes will point that out, used to try and use in a company pool car Mundano, with a heated front screen, not a chance of a signal, had to put it right in the corner away from the heated element
or open the sunroof and put it on the armrest, not exactly convieient I believe they don't work through those blue reneult screens either. But I imagine all these points are true for any GPS based unit 
oppps just noticed I'm logged on as she you must be obeyed, raceboy.
>> Edited by RaceGirl on Thursday 15th August 20:20
interesting, I am about to venture up to Aberdeen tomorrow via the camera strewn A90. This will be the first run out into "injun" territory since i had the Update carried out. I too hate noticed a tendacy to break lock at the slightest opportunity however i have also changed cars and this MIGHT have something to do with it.
will report back tomorrow (bet you can't wait eh!) MoJo.
will report back tomorrow (bet you can't wait eh!) MoJo.
the geodesy works fine for me, i use a re-radiating arial, rarly looses satelite lock. You may find it alerting to cameras on neighbouring roads, especially true around A329M in reading, my view is it doesn't give false alarms, you could just be turning the corner into that road and then you'll need the warning.
My installation is in a Tiv, so no metal or heated screens 
I think the Morpheous uses a very poor (read cheap) GPS engine. I compared directly to the Garmin last night.
The Morpheous will break lock instantly my hand is placed over the top of the unit. The Garmin will not do this, it holds lock for about 10 seconds with the reciever obscured. (Incidently my Garmin will work in the house -bet the Morpheous won't!)
This continuous sat lock breakup doubtless contributes to all the problems I seem to be experiencing
I'm not happy. At £350 they're having a laugh, profit margins on the units must be HUGE!!! Comparing again, the Garmin has a high quality reciever, LCD screen 'n buttons, highly flexible software system, computer interface etc etc etc and comes in a high grade package (submersible and shock resistant to 9G), but cost just £140 two years ago
Morpheous are basically taking the proverbial.....
I think the Morpheous uses a very poor (read cheap) GPS engine. I compared directly to the Garmin last night.
The Morpheous will break lock instantly my hand is placed over the top of the unit. The Garmin will not do this, it holds lock for about 10 seconds with the reciever obscured. (Incidently my Garmin will work in the house -bet the Morpheous won't!)
This continuous sat lock breakup doubtless contributes to all the problems I seem to be experiencing
I'm not happy. At £350 they're having a laugh, profit margins on the units must be HUGE!!! Comparing again, the Garmin has a high quality reciever, LCD screen 'n buttons, highly flexible software system, computer interface etc etc etc and comes in a high grade package (submersible and shock resistant to 9G), but cost just £140 two years ago
Morpheous are basically taking the proverbial.....
I've had my Geodesy+ for about 6 months and it's been excellent. I have a Cerbera with a heated front screen and it gets coverage quickly from cold. I've found the database to be excellent.
Yes, you do get some false positives, but I've never found this to be too annoying.
I reckon yours is faulty.
Yes, you do get some false positives, but I've never found this to be too annoying.
I reckon yours is faulty.
Anyone heard of someone who takes the data that Geodesy, Morpheous, Road Angel use and develop it for download to Garmin GPS units?
There's a market for it, I have a Garmin GPS which I use offroading and I would rather protect that investmenet than buying a whole new geodessy etcetera...
H
There's a market for it, I have a Garmin GPS which I use offroading and I would rather protect that investmenet than buying a whole new geodessy etcetera...
H
quote:Not for the Garmin but Trafcam exists for PDAs like Palms and iPaqs (being developed) etc. I was thinking about getting something like a palm with a GPS card and using it both for navigation (using mapping software) and speed cam warning. Some mapping software even has speed cam data built in but haven't seen any reviews or know how this data updates.
Anyone heard of someone who takes the data that Geodesy, Morpheous, Road Angel use and develop it for download to Garmin GPS units?
There's a market for it, I have a Garmin GPS which I use offroading and I would rather protect that investmenet than buying a whole new geodessy etcetera...
H
How much storage capacity does the Garmin have? Would have thought this would be the limiting factor.
Also, data available from ABD but would require manual entry.
...also ABD "information on our speed camera pages will no longer be updated as a matter of course, and we can no longer accept updates"
MC
>> Edited by MajorClanger on Friday 16th August 12:54
Well, to cut a long story short, my geodesy plus found all the cameras on the A90 today both ways ok.
However I am at a loss to understand why the much heralded speed function did not kick in as I approached some of the sites(!), even a reduction down to 55 (on a unrestricted dual)failed to stop it's wailing.
I will E-mail morpheous and ask if there is a degradation in satalite cover that would account for this failure (if that is what it is)
A somewhat confused MoJo.
However I am at a loss to understand why the much heralded speed function did not kick in as I approached some of the sites(!), even a reduction down to 55 (on a unrestricted dual)failed to stop it's wailing.
I will E-mail morpheous and ask if there is a degradation in satalite cover that would account for this failure (if that is what it is)
A somewhat confused MoJo.
ive used this unit along with a snopper s5 for 2-3 months and can honestly say the geo picks up 100% of fixed sites but the s5 only about 50-60%. it was spot on up the a90 in scotland, although the s5 did pick up most of them. maybe its because the 'non operational' cams dont give of a radar sig strong enough??
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....How much storage capacity does the Garmin have? Would have thought this would be the limiting factor.
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MC,
Not sure of capacity of my old GPSII+, but the one I am lusting after is ths one:
www.garmin.com/products/gps5/
Plenty storage, but cannot find anything anywhere about someone having ported the "safety" camera location data...
H
I use the Bell Euro 550 which seems to be fine but I still have an overriding suspicion of such technology: yes it beeps every so often but rarely do I notice plod - is this because it IS actually working and I'm getting loads of advanced warning?
Mind you, not sure how much good such things are with the windows down, sunroof open and 160 on the clock.
BTW, can anyone say if the Bel 550 picks up SPECS and are there any (other) forms of social security financing that it definately won't detect?
Maybe, like some McLaren owner I once heard interviewed said, you're ultimately gonna have to use your peelers and stay back for slip roads and bridges: indeed, it always gets me when, after an early morning uber-blast on the m-way, you slow it for the bridges and Saxo boy always comes squeaking past, flat out at 115 only to then be hauled back in as the concrete symbol of automotive oppression recedes.
Happy trails, chaps.
Mind you, not sure how much good such things are with the windows down, sunroof open and 160 on the clock.
BTW, can anyone say if the Bel 550 picks up SPECS and are there any (other) forms of social security financing that it definately won't detect?
Maybe, like some McLaren owner I once heard interviewed said, you're ultimately gonna have to use your peelers and stay back for slip roads and bridges: indeed, it always gets me when, after an early morning uber-blast on the m-way, you slow it for the bridges and Saxo boy always comes squeaking past, flat out at 115 only to then be hauled back in as the concrete symbol of automotive oppression recedes.
Happy trails, chaps.
Derestrictor,
As far as I know, SPECS is a numberplate recognition system linked to a computerised timing device (I may be really wrong, I'm just a forriner ;-)).
As such, it does not send out any laser or radar, it's a video camera... So no way to detect it except with your eyes or a Geodesey, Origin Blue, Road Angel etcetera.
H
As far as I know, SPECS is a numberplate recognition system linked to a computerised timing device (I may be really wrong, I'm just a forriner ;-)).
As such, it does not send out any laser or radar, it's a video camera... So no way to detect it except with your eyes or a Geodesey, Origin Blue, Road Angel etcetera.
H
For proper cover you really need a GPS device coupled with a RADAR unit and a LIDAR diffuser. There's no way a GPS only device knows if a camera is live or not. In addition, there's no way it can detect mobile units. On the other hand a RADAR only unit will not always give enough warning and it won't tell you about SPECS.
The LIDAR unit is just to stuff the mobiles
The LIDAR unit is just to stuff the mobiles
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For proper cover you really need a GPS device coupled with a RADAR unit and a LIDAR diffuser. There's no way a GPS only device knows if a camera is live or not. In addition, there's no way it can detect mobile units. On the other hand a RADAR only unit will not always give enough warning and it won't tell you about SPECS.
The LIDAR unit is just to stuff the mobiles
Holy sh1t Roop! So you mean I need my Bell Euro 550 for GATSOs, a LIDAR for malicious bridge-based grannies, my eyes for SPECS (!) and what's the Geodessy for again? Where do the cow horns go? Not to mention the small battery of SAMs...
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