NUMBER PLATES SHY ONES
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I had ones that were a type of film to put over your plate, they were a bit obvious if you got up close but seemed to work (testing with a digital camera & also a d**khead colleague who used to scream through speedcameras on dual carriageways and never got a ticket) Eventually the boys in blue saw it and removed it.
He has since got camera shy plates, we did lots of testing with a digi camera with flash from varying distances and angles and could never get it to show up. Whether the flash from a gatso is different or not I dont know.
Camera shy do say that they will refund money in full if you are succesfully photographed with a flash camera. Not much consolation when you are banned I guess!!
I'm still not sure, there was no was we could get it to show up when using a flash, weird.
>> Edited by craigw on Tuesday 6th August 10:09
He has since got camera shy plates, we did lots of testing with a digi camera with flash from varying distances and angles and could never get it to show up. Whether the flash from a gatso is different or not I dont know.
Camera shy do say that they will refund money in full if you are succesfully photographed with a flash camera. Not much consolation when you are banned I guess!!
I'm still not sure, there was no was we could get it to show up when using a flash, weird.
>> Edited by craigw on Tuesday 6th August 10:09
You could try - www.tyrekickers.com/Market.html and click the link for 'OnTrack' plates. I bought two a few months ago (the front ones do for the new SPECS cameras, I believe). I think they are different to the usual 'camerashy' type things in that they work like a cashpoint screen, from the front they are transparent, but from angles above and below they become opaque. Made in Canada, if I remember rightly.
Quite inconspicuous once on, as well.
Quite inconspicuous once on, as well.
Don't sell 'em, unfortunately!!!
Though now I'm tempted to!!!
Do use them, though. Like I said, had them about three months and no tickets so far!! Don't know if i'd like to 'deliberately' hammer through a gatso to test them out, but for the money I felt it was a fair shout considering how many cameras are springing up round my way at the mo......
Though now I'm tempted to!!!
Do use them, though. Like I said, had them about three months and no tickets so far!! Don't know if i'd like to 'deliberately' hammer through a gatso to test them out, but for the money I felt it was a fair shout considering how many cameras are springing up round my way at the mo......
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Anyone heard of 'flashback' before? another anti-camera plate-masking thingy.
Basically it's a perspex panel you mount about 1" infront of your plate, two flashbulbs and a sensor. When the sensor detects a flash, it fires it's flashes and they obscure the plate (by flashing at an angle so the perspex becomes mirrored)
They're meant for celebs being followed by paparazzi etc but a few have wormed their way onto Audi TT's etc. Total waste of money if you ask me because the camera doesn't just take a photo of your plate does it - and pretty much every car has a distinguishing mark on it - be it a dealer sticker, badge missing, discoloured panel or whatever.
At the end of the day, you fly through a gatso - you take the punishment like a man. If you've got 12 points or if you're standing on 9 and about to lose it through totting up - ah boo sucks, don't speed!
Just my 2p's - I don't speed at all in built-up areas, and rarely go above 80/85 on the motorway. The answer is easy - save it for the track!!
Dave
Basically it's a perspex panel you mount about 1" infront of your plate, two flashbulbs and a sensor. When the sensor detects a flash, it fires it's flashes and they obscure the plate (by flashing at an angle so the perspex becomes mirrored)
They're meant for celebs being followed by paparazzi etc but a few have wormed their way onto Audi TT's etc. Total waste of money if you ask me because the camera doesn't just take a photo of your plate does it - and pretty much every car has a distinguishing mark on it - be it a dealer sticker, badge missing, discoloured panel or whatever.
At the end of the day, you fly through a gatso - you take the punishment like a man. If you've got 12 points or if you're standing on 9 and about to lose it through totting up - ah boo sucks, don't speed!
Just my 2p's - I don't speed at all in built-up areas, and rarely go above 80/85 on the motorway. The answer is easy - save it for the track!!
Dave
Dave,
Normally I'd agree with you. But speaking as someone who made a (small) error recently and is therefore looking to pick up my first 3 pointer in 10 years I'm seriously considering any form of counter-measures I can *legally* take.
I don't speed in built up areas. I too rarely go over 80/85 on the motorway. Still got a ticket.
I think these plates are a bit of a waste of time, really. Better to go for devices which give you warning you are about to have your speed measured and give a few seconds to check your speed and adjust it if necessary....
Normally I'd agree with you. But speaking as someone who made a (small) error recently and is therefore looking to pick up my first 3 pointer in 10 years I'm seriously considering any form of counter-measures I can *legally* take.
I don't speed in built up areas. I too rarely go over 80/85 on the motorway. Still got a ticket.
I think these plates are a bit of a waste of time, really. Better to go for devices which give you warning you are about to have your speed measured and give a few seconds to check your speed and adjust it if necessary....
The thing is though, revenue cameras aren't *that* hard to spot, and unwrapped police cars have lots of distinguishing features too, no writing under the plates, lots of aerials, strange lumps on the dashboard, two shirt-wearing passengers etc etc.
Anyone who speeds through 20/30/40 and to a point 50mph zones in my opinion deserves all they get...
Granted - revenue cams on straight sections of motorway are a pain in the ass and I'm all for the revokation of those, but up here (N/East - more accurately Newcastle) there aren't very many speed cams on major arterial routes. The ones that are here are fairly visible - certianly not hidden behind a sign or whatever.
Admittedly I'm looking to purchase a snooper 815i basically because I will soon be doing a lot of miles outside of my area - that doesn't mean I'm gonna automatically speed though, if it somewhere I don't know - I stick to the limits. In my eyes it's common sense to do so.
At the end of the day, speed isn't where it's at - I get greater enjoyment from going for a blast round the twisties than sitting on a deserted motorway at 120+ (yes, I have been known to do that but only very VERY rarely!) The whole "thrill of driving" comes when you realise you're at your personal limit - that's when the adrenaline starts to flow (for me), not sitting at three figure speeds worrying about a blow-out.
Anyone who speeds through 20/30/40 and to a point 50mph zones in my opinion deserves all they get...
Granted - revenue cams on straight sections of motorway are a pain in the ass and I'm all for the revokation of those, but up here (N/East - more accurately Newcastle) there aren't very many speed cams on major arterial routes. The ones that are here are fairly visible - certianly not hidden behind a sign or whatever.
Admittedly I'm looking to purchase a snooper 815i basically because I will soon be doing a lot of miles outside of my area - that doesn't mean I'm gonna automatically speed though, if it somewhere I don't know - I stick to the limits. In my eyes it's common sense to do so.
At the end of the day, speed isn't where it's at - I get greater enjoyment from going for a blast round the twisties than sitting on a deserted motorway at 120+ (yes, I have been known to do that but only very VERY rarely!) The whole "thrill of driving" comes when you realise you're at your personal limit - that's when the adrenaline starts to flow (for me), not sitting at three figure speeds worrying about a blow-out.
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The thing is though, revenue cameras aren't *that* hard to spot, and unwrapped police cars have lots of distinguishing features too, no writing under the plates, lots of aerials, strange lumps on the dashboard, two shirt-wearing passengers etc etc.
b*ll*cks. I have been pulled by a green subaru impresa the only way I could tell it was a cop car was when the white reverse lights on the back started to flash blue. It looked bog-standard with no extra arials or anything. Lucky I got away with a talking to, and a friendly "slow down a bit eh".
Also What about plod hiding behind bushes, bus shelters etc. You can't see them until they've got you. How about white vans on the side of the road and my most recent experience (which I'm waiting to see if it was a camera or not). Two people behind a sheet, on a footbridge over a dual carriageway.
Also you seem to forget all the NSL roads that have suddenly changed to 50 or even 40mph. The road has become seriously dangerous has it?
You should see some of the dual and triple carriageway 40mph limit roads in my neighbourhood. You wouldn't be thinking "you get everything you deserve" on those roads. I would put money on that you would speed along them (as everybody with a bit of common does) Years ago I would have agreed with you but now there are loads of stealth methods and quotas to fill in. Plus you get nicked for rediculous limits (ie 80/85 on a deserted Mway). The question is now not IF you will get caught but WHEN.
>> Edited by smeagol on Friday 9th August 18:02
I ain't arguing but maybe I'm just more adept at spotting unmarked police cars than most. Either way - three years of driving in the most dangerous age bracket (18-21) and I've come out of it with 0 points, 1 parking ticket and 0 other endorsements...
Maybe it's cos I don't speed in built up areas? Maybe it's cos I always wonder about suspicious looking cars around me - I've been extremely observant since the first time I was stopped by a panda car - just for being a young lad in a big car.
Now, it's not necessarily "b*****ks" (I don't feel the need to say that really) what I put, maybe I'm lucky - maybe more observant, I don't know what is different. At the end of the day, I have only ONCE been pulled for speeding and that was through my own neglect.
Maybe it's cos I don't speed in built up areas? Maybe it's cos I always wonder about suspicious looking cars around me - I've been extremely observant since the first time I was stopped by a panda car - just for being a young lad in a big car.
Now, it's not necessarily "b*****ks" (I don't feel the need to say that really) what I put, maybe I'm lucky - maybe more observant, I don't know what is different. At the end of the day, I have only ONCE been pulled for speeding and that was through my own neglect.
"The thing is though, revenue cameras aren't *that* hard to spot"
Yeah right, like a escort van, parked on a slip, dirty white, bonnet up with the "device" hanging from the underside of the bonnet pointing forwards along dual carridgeway.............
What do you do? slow down for every piece of roadside furniture??
Yeah right, like a escort van, parked on a slip, dirty white, bonnet up with the "device" hanging from the underside of the bonnet pointing forwards along dual carridgeway.............
What do you do? slow down for every piece of roadside furniture??
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