Is it worth it.............
Discussion
to pre-empt a "pull"?? Had a couple of stops in the last week or so and each time I knew it was going to happen (yes, you've guessed it, not quite driving within the rules), but my question is, how would plod react if as soon as I thought I was being "followed", I stopped the car, got out and went and asked them wot was wrong?
Anyone care to comment?
BTW, one was for " a bit hasty round the roundabout sir" the other was getting away from teh lights a bit quicker than the car on the outside (oh and over the 30 limit as well....
shock horror) Both were a 1 min chat and away, so fair does to plod for that.
>>> Edited by mondeoman on Monday 15th July 12:22
Anyone care to comment?
BTW, one was for " a bit hasty round the roundabout sir" the other was getting away from teh lights a bit quicker than the car on the outside (oh and over the 30 limit as well....
shock horror) Both were a 1 min chat and away, so fair does to plod for that. >>> Edited by mondeoman on Monday 15th July 12:22
Mighty surprised I'd say!
"Good afternoon office, Did you know that you were following me in a manner to make me nervous?"
Anyhow,
I would like to understand exactly how VASCAR works, I know its a measurement (speed vs Distance) between two objects, Are these objects stationery, are they pre-marked by Plod, are they a specified distance etc etc ... How do you know the officer has the line of sight to this object correct (passing speed)
I would appreciate it is one of the Traffic Officers (or ex) would describe the exact and specific procedure of how the VASCAR systems work
Appreciate any input
"Good afternoon office, Did you know that you were following me in a manner to make me nervous?"
Anyhow,
I would like to understand exactly how VASCAR works, I know its a measurement (speed vs Distance) between two objects, Are these objects stationery, are they pre-marked by Plod, are they a specified distance etc etc ... How do you know the officer has the line of sight to this object correct (passing speed)
I would appreciate it is one of the Traffic Officers (or ex) would describe the exact and specific procedure of how the VASCAR systems work
Appreciate any input
I usually stop straight away, and it hasn't done me any harm.
I think plod quite respects this approach as it means you're paying attention to other road users rather than using the blind-speed goggles approach which is far more dangerous.
I guess we'll have to await madcop's comments... come on Steve?
I think plod quite respects this approach as it means you're paying attention to other road users rather than using the blind-speed goggles approach which is far more dangerous.
I guess we'll have to await madcop's comments... come on Steve?
Did this once a few years back when I owned a Capri. 
Passed plod going the other way at a mini roundabout at about 2.00am and saw them staring at me. I was averaging a pull about every 3 weeks at the time and was getting a bit sick of it. Seemed there was a little known law of "being in charge of a Ford after dark".
I knew they were going to stop me so pulled over, got out and leant against the bonnet to wait for them to turn round.
My speech was prepared to answer all the questions they were going to ask bfore they actually did ask.
"Good evening. My name is ..., I live at...., I've been at work which is at..., I'm going home to the address I have previously given you. I'm 25, my date of birth is.... Yes it is my car. I've had it five years. No I don't have my documents, I don't carry them with me. I will be selling the car soon because I am sick of being pulled every fcuking week. The registration is D799 MKP. Of course you can go and do your check in the car while your friend here checks the lights, tyres and tax disc. I will be only too happy to open the boot so you can stick your beak in there. I'd like to produce the relevant documents at Uckfield police station please. Could you tell me why I was stopped?
They were surprised and a little amused at being on the receiving end of my tirade, but told me that "If we didn't stop cars like this we wouldn't be doing our job properly sir." This little gem was delivered just as a battered white Transit went past us
.
I told them that I was a little confused as to why a Ford should engender such attention.
After about five minutes they sent me on my way. This was about the only time I was stopped and not given a producer.
Sold the car a few weeks later and bought an Alfa 75. Never got stopped once in that.
Passed plod going the other way at a mini roundabout at about 2.00am and saw them staring at me. I was averaging a pull about every 3 weeks at the time and was getting a bit sick of it. Seemed there was a little known law of "being in charge of a Ford after dark".
I knew they were going to stop me so pulled over, got out and leant against the bonnet to wait for them to turn round.
My speech was prepared to answer all the questions they were going to ask bfore they actually did ask.
"Good evening. My name is ..., I live at...., I've been at work which is at..., I'm going home to the address I have previously given you. I'm 25, my date of birth is.... Yes it is my car. I've had it five years. No I don't have my documents, I don't carry them with me. I will be selling the car soon because I am sick of being pulled every fcuking week. The registration is D799 MKP. Of course you can go and do your check in the car while your friend here checks the lights, tyres and tax disc. I will be only too happy to open the boot so you can stick your beak in there. I'd like to produce the relevant documents at Uckfield police station please. Could you tell me why I was stopped?
They were surprised and a little amused at being on the receiving end of my tirade, but told me that "If we didn't stop cars like this we wouldn't be doing our job properly sir." This little gem was delivered just as a battered white Transit went past us
. I told them that I was a little confused as to why a Ford should engender such attention.
After about five minutes they sent me on my way. This was about the only time I was stopped and not given a producer.
Sold the car a few weeks later and bought an Alfa 75. Never got stopped once in that.
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That MIGHT be thrown back at you, if the copper was a bit of a smart-arse... "if you don't know WHY you were pulled over sir..." = driving without due care and attension.
I've often wondered about that sort of thing. "Do you know what speed you were doing, sir?". Is this a trick question?
On the one hand, you're admitting your guilt. If you claim to be unaware of your speed, is this somehow worse? Dan
But that's the point. They didn't pull me over for anything other than driving a Capri at 2 in the morning. Wasn't speeding, car had tax and MOT. Lights were working, tyres were legal etc etc. The real reason is that they hoped to get lucky because of their preconceived misconceptions of Capri drivers. 
The other option is to see how quickly you can get the blue lights to come on – providing you weren't doing anything wrong, of course. What's the point in being followed slowly for miles in an obviously quick motor, when you can drop down a cog and watch Plod's faces in your mirror when they see your car's rear end squat down. Childish, maybe, but you're on your way again much sooner.
What about your right to silence? Do you have to answer to coppers questions at the road side, or can you not? Whats the concequenses for not speaking up?
Q: "Do you know what speed you were doing Sir/Madame?"
A: "Sorry, but I refuse to answer that question for fear of incriminating myself"
When it comes down to it, they'd probably have to caution you 1st.
Anyone know?
Paul
Q: "Do you know what speed you were doing Sir/Madame?"
A: "Sorry, but I refuse to answer that question for fear of incriminating myself"
When it comes down to it, they'd probably have to caution you 1st.
Anyone know?
Paul
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But that's the point. They didn't pull me over for anything other than driving a Capri at 2 in the morning. Wasn't speeding, car had tax and MOT. Lights were working, tyres were legal etc etc. The real reason is that they hoped to get lucky because of their preconceived misconceptions of Capri drivers.
My guess is that, given the ease of forcing the old Ford locks (allegedly) they were taking a good guess at the car being stolen at 2AM!
I know it is a pisser getting pulled for nothing, but if it HAD been stolen, you would be greatful for them getting the little toe rag wouldnt you!
Just a thought
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