Split up with GF but my car in her name on V5
Split up with GF but my car in her name on V5
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ATM

Original Poster:

21,470 posts

249 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Hello

I have split up with my Girlfriend. My car that I paid for and drive around is registered in her name because it is insured i her name. She says I owe her money - right whatever. Now she says she wants the car back. I have the V5 and keys etc but it is in her name so do I need to return it?

Hyper10

432 posts

199 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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As DVLA always say, "the registered keeper may not be the owner", I'd contact DVLA I'm sure they have a department who will deal with these things

Sorry, I wouldn't say you need to return it, if she claims you owe her money, she can make the running

Butter Face

35,052 posts

190 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Did you pay for the car? More importantly, do you have proof you paid for it?

A V5 is not a proof of ownership.

ATM

Original Poster:

21,470 posts

249 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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I did pay for it with my visa debit card yes. But I think the receipt has her name and address on it to match what went on the V5. I will go look for it...

sunoco69

5,274 posts

195 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Get a statement from Visa as proof you paid for it.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

234 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Surely if the receipt is in her name then it's hers regardless of who paid?

FWIW DON@T do this again. The owner/v5/insured can all be different people. Just call the insurer and explain your situation.

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

194 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Send the v5 off changing the owner, I'm sure you can sign it.

Mandat

4,643 posts

268 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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MajorProblem said:
Send the v5 off changing the owner, I'm sure you can sign it.
As stated above, and in numerous other similar threads, the V5 does not show who the owner is, just the registered keeper.

ATM

Original Poster:

21,470 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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MajorProblem said:
Send the v5 off changing the owner, I'm sure you can sign it.
If i do this can she not claim foul play or get the law involved. Will I be breaking any laws?

AutoClouseau

185 posts

237 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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smilesmileIf you have possession of the car, then "legally" you need to notify them that you are responsible for the vehicle.
Return the V5 with your details completed and where the previous keeper should sign, say not present in this part, therefore you can't be seen as trying to sign her signature etc, but again remember its a legal responsibility to keep DVLA informed who is responsible for the vehicle!! smile . Which is you, being in possession of it.
If you can show you purchased the vehicle with your own funds, you have a strong case, make sure you find the receipt and have statement to hand. It's a civil dispute in any case.
You should however get your own insurance in place, as you will be changing the fundamentals of her policy and she could cancel her policy at any time, so don't leave yourself open to finding out the hard way, your not insured.

Edited by AutoClouseau on Tuesday 2nd July 06:52

jdw1234

6,021 posts

245 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Or put a wig on and drive through lots of speed cameras.


Tino

1,948 posts

313 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Is it still insured in her name?? If so, you need to get that changed ASAP, as i'm not sure where you stand if she is the main policy holder and you have an accident and need her authority to make a claim.
(I'm surprised no-one has picked up on the 'fronting' issue)
FWIW in future, as mentioned above,you can have yourself as the keeper, with your partner as the main driver. Just let the insurers know.

spikeyhead

20,540 posts

227 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Tino said:
Is it still insured in her name?? If so, you need to get that changed ASAP, as i'm not sure where you stand if she is the main policy holder and you have an accident and need her authority to make a claim.
(I'm surprised no-one has picked up on the 'fronting' issue)
FWIW in future, as mentioned above,you can have yourself as the keeper, with your partner as the main driver. Just let the insurers know.
I was about to pick up on that, OP, why, if it is your car and you're the one driving it is the insurance in her name?

illmonkey

19,827 posts

228 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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spikeyhead said:
Tino said:
Is it still insured in her name?? If so, you need to get that changed ASAP, as i'm not sure where you stand if she is the main policy holder and you have an accident and need her authority to make a claim.
(I'm surprised no-one has picked up on the 'fronting' issue)
FWIW in future, as mentioned above,you can have yourself as the keeper, with your partner as the main driver. Just let the insurers know.
I was about to pick up on that, OP, why, if it is your car and you're the one driving it is the insurance in her name?
It's called fronting, and its illegal. Probably done to save £100/year, but could have his (her) policy cancelled if they found out.


ATM

Original Poster:

21,470 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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illmonkey said:
spikeyhead said:
Tino said:
Is it still insured in her name?? If so, you need to get that changed ASAP, as i'm not sure where you stand if she is the main policy holder and you have an accident and need her authority to make a claim.
(I'm surprised no-one has picked up on the 'fronting' issue)
FWIW in future, as mentioned above,you can have yourself as the keeper, with your partner as the main driver. Just let the insurers know.
I was about to pick up on that, OP, why, if it is your car and you're the one driving it is the insurance in her name?
It's called fronting, and its illegal. Probably done to save £100/year, but could have his (her) policy cancelled if they found out.
I bought the car for her. But she didn't like it. I was the second driver on the insurance. She wouldn't let me sell her old car because she wanted to keep using it. So I spent a few quid on her old one. I have been using it for about 3 months. She has only driven it once.

marshalla

15,902 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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ATM said:
I bought the car for her. But she didn't like it. I was the second driver on the insurance. She wouldn't let me sell her old car because she wanted to keep using it. So I spent a few quid on her old one. I have been using it for about 3 months. She has only driven it once.
So

a) it was a gift - therefore you're not the owner
b) you're the main driver, but not listed as such on the insurance and therefore fronting

Oh dear.

LotusMartin

1,127 posts

182 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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ATM said:
I bought the car for her.

There lies your problem. You bought it for her, therefore she is the owner. Best give it back.

If you own a car, make sure you're on the V5

illmonkey

19,827 posts

228 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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marshalla said:
ATM said:
I bought the car for her. But she didn't like it. I was the second driver on the insurance. She wouldn't let me sell her old car because she wanted to keep using it. So I spent a few quid on her old one. I have been using it for about 3 months. She has only driven it once.
So

a) it was a gift - therefore you're not the owner
b) you're the main driver, but not listed as such on the insurance and therefore fronting

Oh dear.
Oh dear indeed. Best ask her nicely if she'll give you her car for free.


BaronVonVaderham

2,322 posts

177 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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No such thing as a 'gift'. He bought it, it's his name on receipt, it belongs to him.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

181 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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In the voice of Judge Judy.

The car was a gift sir.
You gave her the car, and now you have split up you want it back. The world doesn't work like that.
You could ask her for the car, and if she's a nice girl she might give it to you or sell it to you, but that's up to her not me.
You might say it wasn't a gift, but then we'll be asking about the legality of fronting and insurance fraud and we don't want to have that discussion do we young man.
Consider this a life lesson and move on, be more careful about giving expensive gifts in the future.
Just be thankful that it's just a car and that you don't have a child between you.