Metro centre parking fines

[xh11rdy]

I've been ignoring a ticket for not displaying a blue badge in disabled bay for a good few months (i'm not a c**t just forgot to put it on dash!)

Am I right in thinking all they can do is threaten? Or might actually get summoned to court as they keep telling me?

cheers

[ellroy]

Who's doing the summoning?

I'm not sure, but I don't think the metro centre is a legally constituted council/raliway operator/police authority etc etc

[streaky]

xh11rdy said:

I've been ignoring a ticket for not displaying a blue badge in disabled bay for a good few months (i'm not a c**t just forgot to put it on dash!)

You forgot to put it on the dash for a good few months?

Streaky

[Red Devil]

ellroy said:

Who's doing the summoning?

I'm not sure, but I don't think the metro centre is a legally constituted council/raliway operator/police authority etc etc

This makes all the difference as does the date if it is a PPC.
Schedule 4 of the PoFA is not retrospective so does not apply if the contravention occurred prior to 1st October 2012.
http://www.davenportlyons.com/news/news-stories/pr...

[xh11rdy]

ellroy said:

Who's doing the summoning?

I'm not sure, but I don't think the metro centre is a legally constituted council/raliway operator/police authority etc etc

Not been summoned yet but the letters are coming from Debt Recovery Plus on behalf of Uk Parking Control.

It was end of August the 'offence'.

Came across a forum called Pepipoo while googling. http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=7423... If these people are right I can just keep ignoring.

[shadylee]

When you pay them could you then send me some money please.....as that's pretty much what private parking firms are doing...sending begging letter with BIG RED writing using scary words...oohhh

I've had a few,after the solicitor letter they give up.

[Red Devil]

xh11rdy said:

Not been summoned yet but the letters are coming from Debt Recovery Plus on behalf of Uk Parking Control.

Debt Recovery Plus is self explanatory. UK Parking Control is a PPC.

xh11rdy said:

It was end of August the 'offence'.

Good that you used '...', offences are criminal which certainly isn't the case here, so there is no question of receiving a summons. The worst that can happen is you are sued for a civil debt.

The date means that any action must be taken against the driver. As they have no idea who that was they have to go on a fishing trip.

xh11rdy said:

Came across a forum called Pepipoo while googling. http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=7423... If these people are right I can just keep ignoring.

If you look closely at the correspondence you have received it is likely that the words 'may' and 'could' will feature heavily. Designed to frighten and intimidate as they have no case against the RK. So, unless they have that information (which they won't unless someone has told them) it doesn't make economic sense to pursue it when there are plenty of others who will take the hook.

Edited by Red Devil on Wednesday 12th December 20:21

[GC8]

Even if this happened yeaterday, Im not sure that the Metro centre could demonstrate how a disabled person whose badge fell off has actually cost them anything in real terms. Surely this is the hurdle that they have to clear, rather than simply demanding money but now with the law behind them?

Id suggest Pressdram's reply to Arkell.

[streaky]

Red Devil said:

If you look closely at the correspondence you have received it is likely that the words 'may' and 'could' will feature heavily. Designed to frighten and intimidate as they have no case against the RK (1). So, unless they have that information (which they won't unless someone has told them[small (2)[/small]) it doesn't make economic sense to pursue it when there are plenty of others who will take the hook.

(1) The "case against the RK" was enabled by the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.

(2) That 'someone' being DVLA, upon routine application.

Streaky

[ellroy]

Streaky, is it not the case that the new act does not apply retrospectively?

Therefore, as the alleged infringement occurred in August there is no case for the registered keeper to answer, merely the driver, whoever that was at the time, and with no recourse for the registered keeper to voluntarily name said driver?

[xh11rdy]

Cheers for all the replies.

I will just keep using the letters to light my fire.

to be fair the badge hadn't fell off the dash I think it was my out of date one. My current one would have been in my other car, never remember to swap them though

[covboy]

xh11rdy said:

Cheers for all the replies.

I will just keep using the letters to light my fire.

to be fair the badge hadn't fell off the dash I think it was my out of date one. My current one would have been in my other car, never remember to swap them though

Far be it for me to be cynical (ahem)

If you know you have an out of date badge in one car, did you not realise this when you displayed it at the time ?

(or is it common practice to “risk it” when you have 2 cars in the household)

Don’t dig a deeper hole for yourself for giving PHer’s an excuse for having a go.

[GC8]

Only the bell ends. If the man has a badge then he qualifies and whether he has two cars and only one badge will only be of interest to the most impotent of bedroom warriors.

[wildone63]

I got a parking ticket on my bike from the same tossers earlier this year for parking on the flagstone area just outside the yellow mall enterance.
I just binned every letter that they then their debt recovery dept.sent me and didnt communicate with them whatsoever,they gave up after five attempts.

[streaky]

ellroy said:

Streaky, is it not the case that the new act does not apply retrospectively?

Therefore, as the alleged infringement occurred in August there is no case for the registered keeper to answer, merely the driver, whoever that was at the time, and with no recourse for the registered keeper to voluntarily name said driver?

True. Saw the "good few months", missed the "end of August" later.

Streaky