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A new bit of perfect tarmac.
So why did the boys in blue decide to crack down on 50 motorists? (they were in court yesterday. All of them).
Answer: to set an example for daring to go up to 100mph on a perfect straight road. No junctions, high visibility. Central reservation.
This sort of thing disappoints. NSL road, and speed traps. The fuzz should be ashamed of it. Go and catch someone speeding past a school if you must...
Very disappointed, but I wasn't there.
Carl.
So why did the boys in blue decide to crack down on 50 motorists? (they were in court yesterday. All of them).
Answer: to set an example for daring to go up to 100mph on a perfect straight road. No junctions, high visibility. Central reservation.
This sort of thing disappoints. NSL road, and speed traps. The fuzz should be ashamed of it. Go and catch someone speeding past a school if you must...
Very disappointed, but I wasn't there.
Carl.
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A new bit of perfect tarmac.
So why did the boys in blue decide to crack down on 50 motorists? (they were in court yesterday. All of them).
Answer: to set an example for daring to go up to 100mph on a perfect straight road. No junctions, high visibility. Central reservation.
This sort of thing disappoints. NSL road, and speed traps. The fuzz should be ashamed of it. Go and catch someone speeding past a school if you must...
Very disappointed, but I wasn't there.
Carl.
Point less aint it m8,
They tryed to do me for 56 in a 40 on a perfect straight road. No junctions, high visibility. Central reservation. on 20 yards from it turning into a NSL road.
hidding In the trees of couse.
And how anyone can say that is anything other than Taxation then here a lier.
Sorry Chaps Outlaw will no doubt tell you the well known saying " Cant do the time? Dont do the crime"
Simple answer is dont do over 100mph then you wont end up in the brown stuff. I sympathise with all of them but everyone knows that if you break the ton and you get caught it could be a short spell of 'shankses pony'
Maybe the local cops new that this would be the case as it was a fresh piece of slab and wanted to make their mark so that it didnt quickly become a free for all. Could this be intelligence led policing?
Simple answer is dont do over 100mph then you wont end up in the brown stuff. I sympathise with all of them but everyone knows that if you break the ton and you get caught it could be a short spell of 'shankses pony'
Maybe the local cops new that this would be the case as it was a fresh piece of slab and wanted to make their mark so that it didnt quickly become a free for all. Could this be intelligence led policing?
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Sorry Chaps Outlaw will no doubt tell you the well known saying " Cant do the time? Dont do the crime"
Simple answer is dont do over 100mph then you wont end up in the brown stuff. I sympathise with all of them but everyone knows that if you break the ton and you get caught it could be a short spell of 'shankses pony'
Maybe the local cops new that this would be the case as it was a fresh piece of slab and wanted to make their mark so that it didnt quickly become a free for all. Could this be intelligence led policing?
true but but the real crime is how the uk public get robbed every time th drive there own car.
if you get a nip for 100 dont bloody tellem whow was driving it
keep you gob shut if your lucky enough to not get stoped at the time
and just plead guilty to not telling who the driver is
and take the 3 points and keep your licence.
if your out in the stick blast it round a courner or two if you got passangers all jump out and dont tell em wich one was diriving
they can only give the driver 3 points and a fine for keeping his gob shut nothing too the passangers.
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perhaps they needed to make some cash for the policemans ball
Very unfair sneaky b***ards
There arent enough of us left to have a ball these days. All resigning to work for MacDonalds as the pay is the same and you dont normally get your head punched!!
Err ive thought of going in to the police at the end of my currant job would my athsma be a problem though ?
true but but the real crime is how the uk public get robbed every time th drive there own car.
if your out in the stick blast it round a courner or two if you got passangers all jump out and dont tell em wich one was diriving
they can only give the driver 3 points and a fine for keeping his gob shut nothing too the passangers.
outlaw you had better post some advice on Sect 25 P.A.C.E. 1984 if this is your advice for passengers.
Obstruction is an offence. Sect 25 gives a power of arrest for a number of scenarios that this could be used for.
Better to take the 3 points and cough the driving than to all spend 5 hours down the pokey for p*ssing the cop off. Even if you do walk away without a charge sheet. More than one way to skin a cat so they say!!!!
Oh! and never do this if they suspect alcohol as everyone comes in and everyone is charged with the offence. This should really show who your mates are!!
Err ive thought of going in to the police at the end of my currant job would my athsma be a problem though ?
As long as it is controlled it shouldnt be a problem but you would need to ask the specific force recruiting dept what they require
Most senior officers I know seem to be devoid of brains and it doesnt stop them from being employed!!
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Err ive thought of going in to the police at the end of my currant job would my athsma be a problem though ?
As long as it is controlled it shouldnt be a problem but you would need to ask the specific force recruiting dept what they require
Most senior officers I know seem to be devoid of brains and it doesnt stop them from being employed!!
Thanks madcop
The athsma is controlled but the pie and beer intake needs controlling
I suppose the best thing to do is go and speak to the local police .
Thanks madcop
The athsma is controlled but the pie and beer intake needs controlling
I suppose the best thing to do is go and speak to the local police .
Sounds like you are just the right candidate. Are you partial to the odd Dunkin Donut? Ill send you the application.
Custody areas usually get the throw outs from local garages at 4a.m.
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true but but the real crime is how the uk public get robbed every time th drive there own car.
if your outin the sticks blast it round a courner or two if you got passangers all jump out and dont tell em wich one was driveing
they can only give the driver 3 points and a fine for keeping his gob shut nothing too the passangers.
outlaw you had better post some advice on Sect 25 P.A.C.E. 1984 if this is your advice for passengers.
Obstruction is an offence. Sect 25 gives a power of arrest for a number of scenarios that this could be used for.
Better to take the 3 points and cough the driving than to all spend 5 hours down the pokey for p*ssing the cop off. Even if you do walk away without a charge sheet. More than one way to skin a cat so they say!!!!
Oh! and never do this if they suspect alcohol as everyone comes in and everyone is charged with the offence. This should really show who your mates are!!
I give you Its best not tryed unless you know what your doing and so do you m8`s.
I would not recomend some one trying whos not used to being nicked :-)
Its not really Obstruction by keeping there mouths shut
there are excersizing there right to silence.
nicking em for Obstruction would realy be pushing it abit m8 :-)
for your reaction I guessing you had a few of thease in your time.
seen a few amusing twoc one like this down the local court.
as long as they give there name there under no legal obligaion to tell if the were driveing
only the registered owner is
but 3 points for him still better that a ban
so whats a few hours down the nick
and thats not playing fair now is trying to get for something else later.
your playing with fire, if they know how to play dirt and got real good solisitor.
I can tell you they are glad to see the back of me and chuck me out, at the local nick im om in a wind up mood.
your m8 can praticse, the you cant take my photo while there down there.
I makes the time pass :-)
There YOU GO THEN:
ok you can use It and but often have some explaining to do when streaching s25 a bit too far
but just how you know which in the the relevant person ?
you can posible have grounds, to belive 3 peeps were driving at the same time.
Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984, s.25
General arrest conditions
25. - Where a constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting that any offence which is not an arrestable offence has been committed or attempted, or is being committed or attempted, he may arrest the relevant person if it appears to him that service of a summons is impracticable or inappropriate because any of the general arrest conditions is satisfied.
In this section "the relevant person" means any person whom the constable has reasonable grounds to suspect of having committed or having attempted to commit the offence or of being in the course of committing or attempting to commit it.
The general arrest conditions are -
(a) that the name of the relevant person is unknown to, and cannot be readily ascertained by, the constable;
(b) that the constable has reasonable grounds for doubting whether a name furnished by the relevant person as his name is his real name;
(c) that -
(i) the relevant person has failed to furnish a satisfactory address for service; or
(ii) the constable has reasonable grounds for doubting whether an address furnished by the relevant person is a satisfactory address for service;
(d) that the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that arrest is necessary to prevent the relevant person -
(i) causing physical injury to himself or any other person;
(ii) suffering physical injury;
(iii) causing loss of or damage to property;
(iv) committing an offence against public decency; or
(v) causing an unlawful obstruction of the highway;
(e) that the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that arrest is necessary to protect a child or other vulnerable person from the relevant person.
For the purposes of subsection above an address is a satisfactory address for service if it appears to the constable -
(a) that the relevant person will be at it for a sufficiently long period for it to be possible to serve him with a summons; or
(b) that some other person specified by the relevant person will accept service of a summons for the relevant person at it.
Nothing in subsection (d) above authorises the arrest of a person under sub-paragraph (iv) of that paragraph except where members of the public going about their normal business cannot reasonably be expected to avoid the person to be arrested.
This section shall not prejudice any power of arrest conferred apart from this section
as for aclcohol if there all nicked and know the score
there may get charged but the cant convit em all for the same driving.
the old jump out round the courner saved a few backside over the years.
I remember doing the jump out round the courner and sit on the wall with a fag once.
copper come round the courner and stops
so i say he went that away he was wearing jeans and a base ball cap bacwards.
the plum fell for it said thaks m8 and off he when round the next courner.
so i just jump back in it a drive off the way I came.
shame they aint all that thick.
you got to do that one just right to get awaywith it.
>> Edited by outlaw on Saturday 1st June 23:42
and thats not playing fair now is trying to get for something else later.
your playing with fire, if they know how to play dirt and got real good solisitor.
There YOU GO THEN:
ok you can use It and but often have some explaining to do when streaching s25 a bit too far
but just how you know which in the the relevant person ?
you can posible have grounds, to belive 3 peeps were driving at the same time.
Fair play to you outlaw for the exact and properly spelt Sect 25.
Whos' talking about being fair?
You know that even stretching it a bit doesnt make the arrest unlawful and part of the reason for the arrest is to gain evidence from questioning.
Unless there are two passengers and a driver of your calibre and knowledge, I would suggest that at least someones ring would be going half crown sixpence and spill the beans.
Again I say who is talking about fairness. Cats and skins and all that eh!
And then there is the good old 'Attempt to pervert the course of Justice' Arrestable and brilliant when things are just a little bit complex or confused to go for something more specific.
Bit of a sledge hammer to crack a nut but a very useful tool in the armoury wouldnt you say???
Oh and good Solicitors cost lots of money too
So all in all could be an expensive decision, especially if you dont qualify for legal aid
>> Edited by Madcop on Sunday 2nd June 00:13
PLAYING FAIR ok you got me on that one
as for ones ring going, true most will, It must have been the bad company iv keep over the years with rings of steel :-)
I know many that would find it an amusing few hours out of the house.
true good Solicitors cost lots of money.
You can allway get a cheap one and wite him a speech.
If he wavers from the intructions, you give him the boot.
>> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 2nd June 00:50
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Sorry Chaps Outlaw will no doubt tell you the well known saying " Cant do the time? Dont do the crime"
Simple answer is dont do over 100mph then you wont end up in the brown stuff. I sympathise with all of them but everyone knows that if you break the ton and you get caught it could be a short spell of 'shankses pony'
Maybe the local cops new that this would be the case as it was a fresh piece of slab and wanted to make their mark so that it didnt quickly become a free for all. Could this be intelligence led policing?
No its stealing. These officers should all be fired and lose their pensions. Frankly madcop your attitiude stinks. I have been responsible for implementing gov't sponsored bullshit and I said it was crap at the time. If you seriously think it ought to be a crime to do 100 mph in such conditions then just say so. We can agree or not as the case may be, but don't hide behind the big book of bullshit.
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No its stealing. These officers should all be fired and lose their pensions. Frankly madcop your attitiude stinks. I have been responsible for implementing gov't sponsored bullshit and I said it was crap at the time. If you seriously think it ought to be a crime to do 100 mph in such conditions then just say so. We can agree or not as the case may be, but don't hide behind the big book of bullshit.
Hmmm, say what you mean.
At some point, a line has to be drawn. Unfortunately, that line has to cater for **stupid people**, of which there are many in this country. Ergo, stiffer penalties for >100mph are probably not a bad idea, regardless of whether I think *I* can drive safely at 100 or more in a certain set of conditions in a certain car.
You just know that at some point, in the most favourable conditions, some w@nker in a Nova will still manage to wipe out, hit a tree, kill his mates and so on. You can try and argue that it's good for the gene pool, but you'll not get one law for right thinking folk, one law for idiots.
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At some point, a line has to be drawn. Unfortunately, that line has to cater for **stupid people**, of which there are many in this country.
But if we keep catering for those folks, we'll never get anywhere.
You can't spend good money protecting
stupid folks from themselves.
How about catering for Mr Average ?
1.8 Ford Escort or whatever.
More of us are closer to that level.
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Ergo, stiffer penalties for >100mph are probably not a bad idea, regardless of whether I think *I* can drive safely at 100 or more in a certain set of conditions in a certain car.
100 mph is paint drying speed. The fun only starts
over 120 mph. That's when it starts feeling fast,
and incidentally about as fast as most 4 cylinder
cars go (flat out).
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You just know that at some point, in the most favourable conditions, some w@nker in a Nova will still manage to wipe out, hit a tree, kill his mates and so on. You can try and argue that it's good for the gene pool, but you'll not get one law for right thinking folk, one law for idiots.
Why not ?
You can't legislate against stupidity like that.
They will still do it whatever set of rules are
provided.
I know the cops have got to do their jobs, but how about a bit of discretion? nick people who are being dangerous.. NOT those who are simply exceeding an arbitary limit.
I rode the A130 today. I took it easy, at an indicated 80, 'cos I know this is really 75 in real terms, and this is not worthy of a nicking.
Hey, but once outta sight, I made up to it. But safely of course. NO one hurt, not even me.
When did Police work turn from upholding the public trust, to money grabbing?
Seems you can't give a misbehaving kid a thick ear, but you can bully the motorist. One day, your time will come. Don't know if it will be legislation, or a man with some hardware, but you had better watch out for persecuting so many harmless people. This ain't a threat, it is a promise. There are some hard types out there, and one day it WILL blow up in your faces. Please don't let it get to that. Turn it around before everyone hates you, Mr Cop. Once the public are no longer behind you, you are very isolated.
rgds.
I rode the A130 today. I took it easy, at an indicated 80, 'cos I know this is really 75 in real terms, and this is not worthy of a nicking.
Hey, but once outta sight, I made up to it. But safely of course. NO one hurt, not even me.
When did Police work turn from upholding the public trust, to money grabbing?
Seems you can't give a misbehaving kid a thick ear, but you can bully the motorist. One day, your time will come. Don't know if it will be legislation, or a man with some hardware, but you had better watch out for persecuting so many harmless people. This ain't a threat, it is a promise. There are some hard types out there, and one day it WILL blow up in your faces. Please don't let it get to that. Turn it around before everyone hates you, Mr Cop. Once the public are no longer behind you, you are very isolated.
rgds.
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