Ignoring a NIP?
Discussion
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Has anyone ignored a NIP for speeding? Or returned one stating the Idris Francis ECHR case? What are the consequences of either?
yes I have. I returnded it qoteing the case and saying I had no memory of the day so I canot be shaw who the driver was.
Then qoteing the Iddris case and saying that, I confess under duress as they leave you no choice but to confess ,in breach of human rights.
If convited I intend too take it too the court of human rights my self.
Then they sent a FPN. I sent it back without a stamp telling them to sick it where the sun done shine
and ill see em in court.
PS I dont matter what thye fine me. I will Do the days before I will pay a penny.
and I was not jokeing !
That was the last i heard about it,
It is too late for them to take it to court now.
Its over half a year now :-)
see who can figger out the legal problem my reply caused them and the reson they could not take it to court.
Tip its nothing to do with the idris case, why they droped it
>> Edited by outlaw on Monday 27th May 23:37
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If you were on the recieving end of your reply, how would you react? There is the grodeater go, and then there is your own personal good. Your choice.
well I can Tell you The greater good will never be what you freindly goverment say it, there too busy working on there own personal good.
I for One will continue to go for my own personal good
and the good if those that are close to me.
untill humankind realy does do thing`s for the greater good.
If it dont distroy its self first in the name of the greater good.
I know which one is the most likely, do you ?
human being are preditors by nature, that will never change.
In you life time or mine or you childrens childrens life time.
So wha good you going to pick ?
Outlaw - do the words "red" and "neck" mean anything to you?
This kind of illiterate and unintelligible crap doesn't show PH'ers in a particularly flattering light. I'm as p
d off as anyone when I get a parking ticket or a speeding fine, but at the end of the day, the courts and the legal system are there to protect us all. Nobody's saying that the system is perfect, but it's a damn sight better than the alternative.
This kind of illiterate and unintelligible crap doesn't show PH'ers in a particularly flattering light. I'm as p
d off as anyone when I get a parking ticket or a speeding fine, but at the end of the day, the courts and the legal system are there to protect us all. Nobody's saying that the system is perfect, but it's a damn sight better than the alternative. quote:
Outlaw - do the words "red" and "neck" mean anything to you?
This kind of illiterate and unintelligible crap doesn't show PH'ers in a particularly flattering light. I'm as p
keep tell your self that and crossing your finger`s I may ecome true one day.
Dont hold your breath as may taake some time.
If you do ignore a ticket of any type you may well get away with this particular offence..likely depends on workload at the time. HOWEVER..it will NOT go away. Outlaw...do you think that someone in the police station just said "oh well, what a great bloke, he obviously knows more than any of us so we'll let him off"?? No. It will be added to a record about you that you have done this. If a serious check is ever required on you they will throw this up. If you get pulled at the roadside it may well come up. If you get away with it...well done..you've saved 3 points and 40 quid. If you don't...you'll be paying for rather a lot longer...what a great idea.
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If you do ignore a ticket of any type you may well get away with this particular offence..likely depends on workload at the time. HOWEVER..it will NOT go away. Outlaw...do you think that someone in the police station just said "oh well, what a great bloke, he obviously knows more than any of us so we'll let him off"?? No. It will be added to a record about you that you have done this. If a serious check is ever required on you they will throw this up. If you get pulled at the roadside it may well come up. If you get away with it...well done..you've saved 3 points and 40 quid. If you don't...you'll be paying for rather a lot longer...what a great idea.
not quite right after six moths the cant take it too court m8, its too late.
and i save 60 not 40 they when up a time ago.
the point is if every one done the same the the speed cam system would just grind to a halt m8.
"If a serious check is ever required on you they will throw this up. If you get pulled at the roadside it may well come up."
not really a pro lem(that key dont work) m8.
I aint an arestale offence and if your talking aout a ackground check then who the hell cares a out(key dont work guess it) a speeding ticket
any any way if you got my record I dont think a speeding ticket will make F all difference m8, I needs to coppers to carry it :-)
If you want my addvice save your £60 quid
if not pay you stealth cam tx up like a good
ainwashed(that key again) tin pot dictatorship called england.
your choice
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Outlaw - why send it back without a stamp (does this delay the process too long or something??)?
no m8 it make them have to pay the postage when they recive it if they want it.
Ie i replyed if thry dont want not my prolem I sent it :-)
the posty will ask for the money efore delivering it.
justin case anyone wants to know why they really/most likely dropped it
It is the fact that in my first reply. I say that i do not know who was driving.
I am confessing under durress and and againt europian law.
The muppets that prosses the nip are civies and do relise that they are doing when they send out the FPN.
with a smart reply I want a smart as they thor it was. :-)
the ofice workers there dont know as much as they think they do.
That they have excepted my answer to the nip in sending the FPN and can not now do me for not telling them who was driving now.
If I dont pay the £60 quid and wait for a court date, to come they can not go to court now. as the cps will most likely in it out
as soon as they get or after looking ar my record as they know there on a loser as ever way they know its going to cost em as The local cps no me well :-)
pluss a few will get dumped anyway if there too usy at that in that location with more inportaint stuff.
there one more reson as with the cps too.
I cant give that one away, as it would give too much information out that I dont want known.
and know know it will go no gulty all the way and even if convited i wont pay .I would rather do the days m8.
a few days for that dont other me *een down for much longer than that other times its *een known for me to damage a plod with a few stripes,when He come the hardman as well.
he started it. and was askimg for it he hit me other the head with a trunction for nothing.
you should have seen his face when he relised it just pissed me off and I took I away from him.
lucky for him i trew it away and done him without a wepon.
The main legal reson is that.
If i plead not gulty then the only evidence that they have, is the fact that I said i was the driver on the
NIP
They need that confesstion to get a conviction in a speed cam case with out and a face pic they got no evidence.
thats why the use NIP`s
I did not say that I was driving on the NIP.
I said, I confess as you making me confess however I do not know if i was driving at the time.
Ie I have never addmitted driving it.
so how they prove I was driving ,They cant prove I was driving it
only thing the can prove is my car was speeding and they cant prove i was driving it.
and as they sent the FPN to me, they can not do me for not telling them who was driving now and im going too take the right of silence if go`s to court.
there for if convited it is an unsafe conviction as
i have said iv confess however It was not me.
ie if convited on a false addmition. it unsafe
pluss the cant take it to court after 6 mouths from the reter date of the nip and thats long gone.
you would e suprised how may of theas they get
pluss one more think you have the pright if it dose go to court to ask for it to e delayed untill the idris case is desided in a few years of for leave to appeal to the europiean court your self in the mater
it all ready r allowd in the idris case so they dont have much of a choice other than to grant you the leav.
£60 of my notes saved :-) witch ever way it go`s
you get the idear
I just cause en one large headache for the silly little speeding ticket.
i know the english is hard to understand my key pads gone and mising a few keys, mostly the one that looks like d ackwards
so Im having to change the wording so, I can type this.
>> Edited by outlaw on Wednesday 29th May 05:12
quote:Well, with 103 posts and 3 months membership it must be a protracted one.
Right, Outlaw - you've got to be a wind-up, nobody's spelling's that bad.
C'mon, confess - who is it?
No, seriously, I just think that outlaw is monumentally bad at spelling and grammar rather than ficticious.
Outlaw - could I make a humble suggestion? Could you possibly write your replies in something like MS Word, run it through the spell checker and grammar checker, and then cut & paste the text into your Pistonhead's post? Your posts are interesting, but they're VERY hard going to read and decipher!
I'm not having a go at you or anything, its just a suggestion.
Cheers
Jon
>> Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 29th May 11:32
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Your posts are interesting, but they're VERY hard going to read and decipher!
I find that pushing them through The Dialectizer (http://rinkworks.com/dialect) with a dialect of Swedish Chef normally does the trick.
quote:yes really the key oards knackered m8 im ff out to get one very soon.
Right, Outlaw - you've got to be a wind-up, nobody's spelling's that bad....."the one that looks like a d backwards" my arse!
C'mon, confess - who is it?
I have said efore Im im dislexsic.
est it i dont get d`s and (cant type that one guess it ) mixed up It`s the key oard
IQ`s fine really. Just cant spell and the gramers shit.
can read fine and try tuping with screwed ke oard as well m8. My m8 kid come round and killed my good one with a drink. The spare cheap one I got till i could find a good on dieing after a week.
The good one was a £90 quid key ourd
>> Edited by outlaw on Wednesday 29th May 14:25
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not quite right after six moths the cant take it too court m8, its too late.
I agree it may be too late for this specific offence..but it means next time you get pulled they are likely to be nastier to you
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"If a serious check is ever required"
not really a pro lem(that key dont work) m8.
I aint an arestale offence and if your talking aout a ackground check then who the hell cares a out(key dont work guess it) a speeding ticket
fair enough...it is a concern to me...and I did mean a background check. Personally I like being in a position to do anything I want....and some of the things I may want to do involve serious background checks. The speeding ticket is irrelevant - the court avoidance isn't. You might want to be a magistrate, or go to a political conference, or own a shotgun..... who knows?
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i know the english is hard to understand my key pads gone and mising a few keys, mostly the one that looks like d ackwards
excellent as a point...Outlaw..whilst you may be one of lifes bad boys, and have a long criminal record for all sorts of things, most folk on here undoubtedly aren't and don't. A speeding ticket and associated wrongdoings may make no difference to you - but will to other people long term. Your advice may be sound for you, but I'm not so sure that it is for others....
Night
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not quite right after six moths the cant take it too court m8, its too late.
I agree it may be too late for this specific offence..but it means next time you get pulled they are likely to be nastier to you
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Right I can type bbbbbbbbbbbbbb`s again new keyborad, really
"If a serious check is ever required"
not really a pro lem(that key dont work) m8.
I aint an arestale offence and if your talking aout a ackground check then who the hell cares a out(key dont work guess it) a speeding ticket
fair enough...it is a concern to me...and I did mean a background check. Personally I like being in a position to do anything I want....and some of the things I may want to do involve serious background checks. The speeding ticket is irrelevant - the court avoidance isn't. You might want to be a magistrate, or go to a political conference, or own a shotgun..... who knows?
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i know the english is hard to understand my key pads gone and mising a few keys, mostly the one that looks like d ackwards
as a point...Outlaw..whilst you may be one of lifes bad boys, and have a long criminal record for all sorts of things, most folk on here undoubtedly aren't and don't. A speeding ticket and associated wrongdoings may make no difference to you - but will to other people long term. Your advice may be sound for you, but I'm not so sure that it is for others....
Night
It want a wind up both of my keyboards went down the pan, at the same time. been out to get a new one.
As for background checks me I have been and done it m8,
due to the work Iv done m8, as security having worked on defence contract sites and the like without naming names
I joined the other site the pays better and the hours are too.
Trust me. A speeding ticket wont stop you getting a shotgun lisence, or any thing else m8.
even with a record of If you aint been nicked for a few years and it want really bad you should a shotgun, they realy need to give a good reson not to hand you one.
as for a firearms licence it aint realy worth the bother now unless you want too shoot 22`s. you may as well get an air gun as they changed it all a while back and stiched every one up making them hand in there guns, thats why alot of then went missing and are on the street now.
I did not avoid a court m8, in fact i demanded my day in court. theres a big difference, playing there system back at them. taking my right of it going to a court not just confessing and paying my stealth tax to the bannanar republic of England.
if you pay it then its on record i never got charged with it. of taken too court ie no record all al of it.
one more thing dont let my bad gramer and spelling fool you into thinking I got a low IQ.
The fact is most dislexsics have an higher than average one.
just in print yuse a smaller vocablary as they do when speaking.
they just cant always be bothered to run a spell checker some times :-).
>> Edited by outlaw on Wednesday 29th May 19:36
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