mobile camera unit questions...

mobile camera unit questions...

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stabiloboss

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3 posts

270 months

Tuesday 21st May 2002
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just went past one of those mobile camera units. oops I think it may have got me!!

my question is, do they work for both lanes of traffic at the same time? OR only the traffic on the side if the camera? I was on the other side coming towards it you see. I am guessing the answer is yes? Maybe someone knows??

Ta.

john robson

370 posts

284 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2002
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They work where you point them, so it is posible to do both lanes comming and going, the only restriction is other passing car or fixed obstructions

markqelise

258 posts

271 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2002
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You can only be prosecuted on rear number plates

jezzal

8 posts

271 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2002
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Mark sadly they can prosecute from a front on picture. My brother got done for an SP30 by a mobile camera in van a couple of months ago. He asked for the pictures as he wasn't sure if him or girlfriend was driving, came back showing a nice front on view of the number plate and both front seat occupants.

Paul V

4,489 posts

284 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2002
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Can a normal Gatso get you from the front as well? I set on off on Sunday on the London to Brighton run, typical drive the TVR and no problems, yet get in a 30bhp 850cc mini and get done for speeding.

plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2002
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Paul, no, a normal GATSO cant do you if you are going towards it.

London Brighton run good fun this year?

Matt.

gsxrblue

211 posts

273 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2002
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Are bikes pretty much safe from these things???

Paul V

4,489 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd May 2002
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That’s good news, yes London to Brighton was a laugh, haven’t driven my Mk1 much and getting used to the wand gear lever was fun, put the car up for sale but didn’t get to much interest, shame as I thought it would be the place to sell it.

cammers

396 posts

275 months

Friday 24th May 2002
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Think I may have been caught by one of these mobile cameras today!
My question is, over what sort of distance do these cameras work? As I went past and noticed the van, I wasn't going very fast at all, but about 300 meters previous I was pretty well over the limit!
Any ideas?

>> Edited by cammers on Friday 24th May 17:54

bobthebench

398 posts

270 months

Saturday 25th May 2002
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Think I may have been caught by one of these mobile cameras today!
My question is, over what sort of distance do these cameras work? As I went past and noticed the van, I wasn't going very fast at all, but about 300 meters previous I was pretty well over the limit!
Any ideas?

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Older handhelds, MUNIQUIP etc work easily for 200-300 yards. New generation are laser operated and more common for honey traps. These work without problem at over 700m and in the right circumstances can reach 1200m plus

mondeoman

11,430 posts

273 months

Monday 27th May 2002
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Older handhelds, MUNIQUIP etc work easily for 200-300 yards. New generation are laser operated and more common for honey traps. These work without problem at over 700m and in the right circumstances can reach 1200m plus



OH FFS!!! When is this type of tehnology going to be used against the real criminals in society??? Bks to the lot of it - if some scrote on a curfew can get out of the electronic tagging with just a pair of scissors, why can't they put the resources into solving that one - they cause shed loads more damage to society than anyone who ever went 5 mph over the limit. Oh, sorry - that would mean targetting crime, not the "middle" class, the biggest criminals ever - how dare they own and drive a car? Ooops, how un-PC of me.

relaxitscool

368 posts

273 months

Monday 27th May 2002
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OH FFS!!! When is this type of tehnology going to be used against the real criminals in society??? Bks to the lot of it - if some scrote on a curfew can get out of the electronic tagging with just a pair of scissors, why can't they put the resources into solving that one - they cause shed loads more damage to society than anyone who ever went 5 mph over the limit. Oh, sorry - that would mean targetting crime, not the "middle" class, the biggest criminals ever - how dare they own and drive a car? Ooops, how un-PC of me.



Only a tiny amount of police resource is dedicated to traffic. Normally, they are the smallest specialist department. Most crime is solved, you just don't know it cause the media only report sensational stories.

It always amazed me how many people criticise the police when they know nothing except what is said here and what is reported. As I've said over and over, if you wanna see the real side of it, go for a ride along.

Tabs

995 posts

279 months

Monday 27th May 2002
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I'm sure I got zapped by a safety camera van today in Northampton. Of all places it was parked in a busy one way system, with all 4 wheels on the path beside yellow lines! I'll admit I was doing about 37 in a 30 limit, but to get done by an illegally parked van really narks me. So much for safety.

john robson

370 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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If this site were re-mamed SmackHeads and was frequented by drug users I am sure the Plain cloths units and drug unit would be getting a slating for persecuting the poor old drug user thet just wants to get on with his habit which he feels he is entitled to do. But anyway back to reality and PistonHeads, as pointed out Traffic policing is a very small part of our police service, most of what we do is a deterant, at a guess I would say most people who post here have only a few points on their licence the rest are cautious and in general stick reasonably to the limits and other traffic legislation. For the ones that don't it matters not we get paid just the same for handing out tickets as we do for informing your next of kin, it only p!$$35 me off when the culprit is the one who walks away unijured. I do like this site though there are ome good posts and its good to get some feedback from the 'other side', so to speak.

yum

529 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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I'm sure I got zapped by a safety camera van today.



Safety camera van??

Looks like the campaign to change the name of speed cameras is already working.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

273 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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Safety camera van??

Looks like the campaign to change the name of speed cameras is already working.



I heard a report on local radio last week......... Staffordshire Police have identified, wait for it, wait for it........... 600 (yep six hundred!!!) accident black spots that require "safety cameras"? So how does this tie in with the Govm't requirement for (if I remember correctly) 3 deaths over 3 years before it becomes a "blackspot"? Comments ??

mondeoman

11,430 posts

273 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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Most crime is solved, REALLY?? you just don't know it cause the media only report sensational stories.

It always amazed me how many people criticise the police when they know nothing except what is said here and what is reported. As I've said over and over, if you wanna see the real side of it, go for a ride along.




Well, Relax, the only information we have is what is reported or what we hear - and as far as I can remember, the crime rates are soaring and the clear-up rates are falling. Personally I haven't been affected by "crime" per se since my house was broken into 12 years ago (and no it didn't get solved). I know policing is a job I wouldn't want to do - respect to anyone who goes out as part of the "thin blue line". Don't take my comments as a personal attack - with limited information we have to generalise and it is all IMHO!

As an aside - how do we go about getting a "ride along"?

relaxitscool

368 posts

273 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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Well, Relax, the only information we have is what is reported or what we hear - and as far as I can remember, the crime rates are soaring and the clear-up rates are falling. Personally I haven't been affected by "crime" per se since my house was broken into 12 years ago (and no it didn't get solved). I know policing is a job I wouldn't want to do - respect to anyone who goes out as part of the "thin blue line". Don't take my comments as a personal attack - with limited information we have to generalise and it is all IMHO!

As an aside - how do we go about getting a "ride along"?



I fully understand that and don't take offence Detection rates in my force are actually rising and have been for some time. What people must remember is that we are just the start of the chain, and we work to the strictest guidelines in the world (PACE) which is now a model for other countries. All we do is present evidence; the rest is up to CPS/Courts/Probation/Prison etc. Unfortunately, all have different priorities.

Regarding Ride along's. You could try speaking to somebody at your local traffic department or somebody in the training department (the main switch board should be able to connect you.) My father-law went on one a couple of weeks ago and smiled from ear to ear after his first blue light run

Cheers

Rob

bobthebench

398 posts

270 months

Sunday 2nd June 2002
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Most crimes are solved !!! Are you a propaganda agent, aka police officer, by any chance. Detection rates above 35%, other than crimes which attract a life sentence, are descibed as "phenomenal success". Wake up and smell the coffee. Average detection rates are around 20% of crimes reported. West Midlands area produced a survey analysizing induction loop detection, as acurate as GATSO but inadmissable as evidence, showing that at any one time over 40% of people driving are doing so over the speed limit. The police response is that these are offences, not crimes, which explains why around 10% of speeders per annum are prosecuted. When did 10% equal most ?

hertsbiker

6,371 posts

278 months

Sunday 2nd June 2002
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I think that if a site IS a genuine accident blackspot, THEN it should be looked at. Until then, hands off !!

I keep hearing all these figures about how few traffic cops there are, and how few cameras - but just HOW MANY cameras actually catch burglars & muggers, AND make a PROFIT?

If the hypocracy-ation scheme existed for nicking crims, then we'd have no bloody crime. But because we have a dumb stupid number plate on our vehicles we are easy picking for some 'person' in a blue uniform, who couldn't catch anyone else.

BTW, I changed my original post to read 'person', as I beleive there ARE some decent coppers around, and don't want to tar them all with same brush.

rgds.