An Ebay dispute, simple, but opinions please
Discussion
Boleros said:
GasEngineer said:
Fast and Spurious said:
Do people really do this over a fiver? Lord help us.
The eBay seller will have done this many times and just hopes that buyers can't be arsed to take them on. Hats off to the OP for taking the time to challenge them.
The seller has bought the product to sell
They have paid the postage
They have paid the Ebay fees
And the have refunded 25% of the total price.
They won't have made much money, if any, out of that sale, so not a very good scam!
I'm sure they didn't get the courier to break it on purpose.
It's the courier that should be out of pocket, not the seller or the buyer.
GasEngineer said:
Yellow Lizud said:
Why do you think the seller will have done this many times?
Because they know that if they make up a story about funds not being available unless the buyer cancels the return case, then when the buyer does so they don't have to refund what they promise.Why would the seller want to keep repeating something which makes him almost no money and possibly looses him money.
The seller is not going to keep selling something which he knows is going to be returned, even if they do save some money on the return.
Yellow Lizud said:
But you are missing the point.
Why would the seller want to keep repeating something which makes him almost no money and possibly looses him money.
The seller is not going to keep selling something which he knows is going to be returned, even if they do save some money on the return.
What a weird post. Why would the seller want to keep repeating something which makes him almost no money and possibly looses him money.
The seller is not going to keep selling something which he knows is going to be returned, even if they do save some money on the return.
How do you know he keeps repeating it? How do you know he constantly loses money? How do you know he knows something will always be returned?
You don't, no more than anyone else on here does and I rather suspect that no-one really cares either. OP was told he'd get X but he got Y. He rightly pursued it and got what was initially agreed, nothing more to be said really.
Boleros said:
Yellow Lizud said:
But you are missing the point.
Why would the seller want to keep repeating something which makes him almost no money and possibly looses him money.
The seller is not going to keep selling something which he knows is going to be returned, even if they do save some money on the return.
What a weird post. Why would the seller want to keep repeating something which makes him almost no money and possibly looses him money.
The seller is not going to keep selling something which he knows is going to be returned, even if they do save some money on the return.
How do you know he keeps repeating it? How do you know he constantly loses money? How do you know he knows something will always be returned?
You don't, no more than anyone else on here does and I rather suspect that no-one really cares either. OP was told he'd get X but he got Y. He rightly pursued it and got what was initially agreed, nothing more to be said really.
Remember YOU were the one that agreed "The eBay seller will have done this many times".
How do you know this?
I am merely pointing out that you are wrong and that he won't have, for the reasons I explained.
However I do agree with you that no-one really cares and that there is nothing more to be said really..
Boleros said:
I'm not wrong about anything, I agreed with him pursuing the £5 and that's it. As for whether the seller has done it multiple times, I have no idea. I suppose I should have been more selective in what I was agreeing with but hey.
OK, fair enough. Your 'agreement' wasn't that clear and I jumped to the wrong conclusion. There we go, we both apologised, the world didn't stop turning and we can now all happily go on our way! ![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
Wow, a flurry of replies in my favour - not used to this - usually I am shot down but this is PH and I know better.
For context I didn't get the extra fiver, so I lost the dispute - but that risk was all baked in to how I handled it. If it was a proper sum of cash I would have treaded carefully and not agreed to anything, for the sake of a fiver and in hope of goodwill from seller, I chose that path. As a seller I like to learn the current status quo from both sides. Usually the buyer always wins with Ebay but fair play to the seller, they managed to keep a fiver for themselves. Nobody is going hungry.
For context I didn't get the extra fiver, so I lost the dispute - but that risk was all baked in to how I handled it. If it was a proper sum of cash I would have treaded carefully and not agreed to anything, for the sake of a fiver and in hope of goodwill from seller, I chose that path. As a seller I like to learn the current status quo from both sides. Usually the buyer always wins with Ebay but fair play to the seller, they managed to keep a fiver for themselves. Nobody is going hungry.
No - the candle was 20 quid. It burns and looks pretty. I still have what I ordered.
But thought I would test human kindness and integrity. I knew the outcome but every so often you get a win. This time I got proved right again, so still a win although a financial loss. Experience, learning and testing the system is important, staying IN the game, and boosting knowledge of the status quo.
I am a fiver down but I now have much less goodwill on Ebay, so later on, that wil gain me time and money.
But thought I would test human kindness and integrity. I knew the outcome but every so often you get a win. This time I got proved right again, so still a win although a financial loss. Experience, learning and testing the system is important, staying IN the game, and boosting knowledge of the status quo.
I am a fiver down but I now have much less goodwill on Ebay, so later on, that wil gain me time and money.
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