Speed Awareness Course

[LunarOne]

BertBert said:

Ian Geary said:

A. There's a recent thread about an "advanced" biker on a super duke riding "defensively" to hold off a Ducati 1198 rider who overtook him on the straights, but couldn't keep up in the bends - (who he wasn't racing you understand, and all of this took place under the nsl of course)

Anyway he took umbridge about being caught by a mobile camera. They have CCTV to specifically catch vehicles with no front plate but a rear plate.

(In that bikers case, I think the van recorded the other biker's speed, but the PH member's plate...)

B. Is just highly impractical..it could be a km or more? It would also be quite unsafe depending on the verge. I've pushed a 230kg bike for a mile and was knackered. That was pushing from the bars - I'm not even sure how you'd push it backwards easily.

Plus can the operator just summon a police car whilst pushing?

C. i see what you're saying, and if the speed was mental - like court or prison time- it might be the best of a bad choice (though ideally a good rider wouldn't be in a situation where all the choices were bad).

My main concern would be it falls into perverting the course of justice, and plastic plod in the van and real plod will see it as such an affront to their authority, they will throw everything at finding out the vehicle, out of pettiness and bloody-mindedness more than the safety element imo.

Ie scouring CCTV from elsewhere like traffic cams, matching the bike and rider back. It's been done to trace YouTube type bike offences. It would be a huge risk, and I'd bet the consequences would be worse than sucking up the speeding consequence.

Did you actually take what markymark said seriously?

I know, it's all complete nonsense. Why would you push the bike backwards away from the camera van when you can just hoik a wheelie which will take you past the camera with your number plate facing the ground.

Or just ask your wingman to cover you like this driver did.

[Richard-390a0]

BertBert said:

drmotorsport said:

Well that's 3 hours of my life i'm not getting back from last night's Zoom course. I didn't really learn anything new but can see how the course can help refresh those who are out of touch with highway code and plenty of useful emphasis on observation and hazard awareness, so not all 'speeding is bad mkay'. Interesting takeways from the event were that some people are happy to Zoom in bed, and trainer said there were sensors going into motorways to stop MLM's!

And did that sound credible? How are sensors going to get into motorways to stop MLM ing? Classic SAC bks

I completed my National Motorway Awareness Course yesterday afternoon (£85 Hampshire) & this was raised by the trainer but with more clarity as to how it would potentially work on smart motorways. There are sensors embedded within the road surface between the gantries to monitor vehicle movement / traffic flow so if your vehicle is detected not to move left between two gantries as you should once you've completed your overtake you would be potentially prosecuted for driving without due care & attention.

[Yellow Lizud]

Richard-390a0 said:

I completed my National Motorway Awareness Course yesterday afternoon (£85 Hampshire) & this was raised by the trainer but with more clarity as to how it would potentially work on smart motorways. There are sensors embedded within the road surface between the gantries to monitor vehicle movement / traffic flow so if your vehicle is detected not to move left between two gantries as you should once you've completed your overtake you would be potentially prosecuted for driving without due care & attention.

Thank you for that helpful information, it does answer a question that's been annoying me for some time. When I purchased my new car recently the garage charged me for 3 number plates. I assumed the 3rd one was for a trailer but as they neither gave me the plate or even fitted a towbar, I was left a bit confused.

After reading your post I went and had a look under my car and, sure enough, there is the 3rd plate fixed to the underside of the floorpan.
Plan A was to remove the plate, however on further research I discovered that not only is that illegal but, if pulled over and it is discovered that the plate is dirty you could get 1pt on your licence for every character that is unreadable by the embedded sensors.

Bloody nanny state strikes again....

[ferret50]

Yellow Lizud said:

Thank you for that helpful information, it does answer a question that's been annoying me for some time. When I purchased my new car recently the garage charged me for 3 number plates. I assumed the 3rd one was for a trailer but as they neither gave me the plate or even fitted a towbar, I was left a bit confused.

After reading your post I went and had a look under my car and, sure enough, there is the 3rd plate fixed to the underside of the floorpan.
Plan A was to remove the plate, however on further research I discovered that not only is that illegal but, if pulled over and it is discovered that the plate is dirty you could get 1pt on your licence for every character that is unreadable by the embedded sensors.

Bloody nanny state strikes again....

I'm calling custard on this third number plate!

[Pica-Pica]

Richard-390a0 said:

I completed my National Motorway Awareness Course yesterday afternoon (£85 Hampshire) & this was raised by the trainer but with more clarity as to how it would potentially work on smart motorways. There are sensors embedded within the road surface between the gantries to monitor vehicle movement / traffic flow so if your vehicle is detected not to move left between two gantries as you should once you've completed your overtake you would be potentially prosecuted for driving without due care & attention.

Probably driving without due consideration for other road users.

[MustangGT]

ferret50 said:

Yellow Lizud said:

Thank you for that helpful information, it does answer a question that's been annoying me for some time. When I purchased my new car recently the garage charged me for 3 number plates. I assumed the 3rd one was for a trailer but as they neither gave me the plate or even fitted a towbar, I was left a bit confused.

After reading your post I went and had a look under my car and, sure enough, there is the 3rd plate fixed to the underside of the floorpan.
Plan A was to remove the plate, however on further research I discovered that not only is that illegal but, if pulled over and it is discovered that the plate is dirty you could get 1pt on your licence for every character that is unreadable by the embedded sensors.

Bloody nanny state strikes again....

I'm calling custard on this third number plate!

Somebody is a bit late for the 1st April...

[si_xsi]

It's been 16 days since I was whizzing towards the camera van, so far no nasty letters have landed though the letter box, can I un-clench or is that too presumptious.

[martinbiz]

si_xsi said:

It's been 16 days since I was whizzing towards the camera van, so far no nasty letters have landed though the letter box, can I un-clench or is that too presumptious.

Why not start a new thread rather than hijacking this one

[BertBert]

Yellow Lizud said:

Thank you for that helpful information, it does answer a question that's been annoying me for some time. When I purchased my new car recently the garage charged me for 3 number plates. I assumed the 3rd one was for a trailer but as they neither gave me the plate or even fitted a towbar, I was left a bit confused.

After reading your post I went and had a look under my car and, sure enough, there is the 3rd plate fixed to the underside of the floorpan.
Plan A was to remove the plate, however on further research I discovered that not only is that illegal but, if pulled over and it is discovered that the plate is dirty you could get 1pt on your licence for every character that is unreadable by the embedded sensors.

Bloody nanny state strikes again....

Do you teach SACs too?

[si_xsi]

martinbiz said:

Why not start a new thread rather than hijacking this one

Bad day Martin? Me too. Sorry for the disorderly conduct. Whilst I'm sure many appreciate your input, you could always ignore and scroll onwards.

[Hereward]

Sheepshanks said:

Was it mostly older people on the course? One of my daughters did one for 35 in a 30 and she said she felt very out of place amongst the old folk, who mostly didn’t have a clue about anything.

My 84-year old neighbour is going on the course for speeding in his 84-year old Alvis (35 in a 30). Legend.

[martinbiz]

si_xsi said:

martinbiz said:

Why not start a new thread rather than hijacking this one

Bad day Martin? Sorry for the disorderly conduct. Whilst I'm sure many appreciate your input, you could always ignore and scroll onwards.

No fine thanks, but hijacking someone elses thread is a PITA, it can just turn things into a confusing mess.

But to answer your question, not necessarily, lots of possible factors involved, are you the registered keeper, have you moved house recently, is it a new car to you? There you go.