Totting Up Ban

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BertBert

19,253 posts

214 months

Blue62 said:
You really couldn’t be more wrong, I told him to see a lawyer, then simply proffered the recent experience of a friend. Don’t worry, you’re doing a great job on here so please don’t let me put you off, the internet needs you, even if nobody in the real world does.
Right, so you are saying 6 points for a 35 in a 30?

Blue62

9,086 posts

155 months

BertBert said:
Right, so you are saying 6 points for a 35 in a 30?
What’s with this place today? If you take the trouble to go back and review what I wrote you’ll see you’ve misunderstood. HTH

Durzel

12,354 posts

171 months

Seems like a stupid question probably for someone on 9 points, but have you done a Speed Awareness Course in the past 3 years? 35 in a 30 ought to qualify.

You ought to be able to plead "exceptional hardship" in court using the excuse of needing to provide care for your Dad. Any inconvenience to you personally isn't going to carry any weight, and I'd suggest that school runs are a fact of life for most people. Bear in mind you can't use the same excuse twice, so you'd really have to start paying attention to speed limits if successful.

JagLad

53 posts

3 months

Blue62 said:
If you take the trouble to go back and review what I wrote you’ll see you’ve misunderstood. HTH
I don't quite see how anyone could misunderstand this:

Blue62 said:
....a big fine and six points is favourite.
So I think I'll leave it there.

Durzel said:
Seems like a stupid question probably for someone on 9 points, but have you done a Speed Awareness Course in the past 3 years? 35 in a 30 ought to qualify.
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I did think of asking that, but the OP has already been told he will be dealt with in court, so perhaps he has done one in the last three years.


Blue62

9,086 posts

155 months

JagLad said:
I did think of asking that, but the OP has already been told he will be dealt with in court, so perhaps he has done one in the last three years.
This is fun. I originally wrote ‘a big fine and something like six points’, when referring to my friend's experience, my follow up stated I thought six points was favourite. Maybe we should contain the excitement and see what the OP comes back with when the outcome is known, I hope he pops into see a lawyer.

NRG1976

1,221 posts

13 months

Blue62 said:
JagLad said:
I did think of asking that, but the OP has already been told he will be dealt with in court, so perhaps he has done one in the last three years.
This is fun. I originally wrote ‘a big fine and something like six points’, when referring to my friend's experience, my follow up stated I thought six points was favourite. Maybe we should contain the excitement and see what the OP comes back with when the outcome is known, I hope he pops into see a lawyer.
6 points for doing 35 in a 30, why so many?

Bullitt 1

40 posts

12 months

gazza285 said:
Plenty of warnings to modify his behaviour, yet here he is. I have sympathy for his father.
What a prick

Bullitt 1

40 posts

12 months

TwigtheWonderkid said:
To be fair, if the OP was that concerned about his father's care, you'd think that having got to 6 points, and definitely having got to 9, he'd have made the decision to stick to the speed limits all the time.

I did this many years ago having got to 6 points. needed to drive for my job, and had a mortgage to pay etc. For 18 months I never once broke the limit. At weekends my wife drove and I was the passenger. It really wasn't that hard.
Another prick, this place is full of people who have never done anything wrong

CloudStuff

3,764 posts

107 months

TwigtheWonderkid said:
To be fair, if the OP was that concerned about his father's care, you'd think that having got to 6 points, and definitely having got to 9, he'd have made the decision to stick to the speed limits all the time.

I did this many years ago having got to 6 points. needed to drive for my job, and had a mortgage to pay etc. For 18 months I never once broke the limit. At weekends my wife drove and I was the passenger. It really wasn't that hard.
The key question: “To whom are you being fair?”

ChocolateFrog

26,472 posts

176 months

You do realise that if you put Google maps on it tells you where all the speed cameras are including the mobile ones.

If you're driving badly enough to get pulled by plod then a time off the road is probably for the best.

ChocolateFrog

26,472 posts

176 months

Bullitt 1 said:
Another prick, this place is full of people who have never done anything wrong
What makes you think people who have done something wrong should be immune from criticism?

It's really not very hard at all to avoid being pulled for speeding in this country even if you did it every day for 80% of your journey.

To get caught 4 times in a few years is downright incompetent.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,900 posts

153 months

Bullitt 1 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
To be fair, if the OP was that concerned about his father's care, you'd think that having got to 6 points, and definitely having got to 9, he'd have made the decision to stick to the speed limits all the time.

I did this many years ago having got to 6 points. needed to drive for my job, and had a mortgage to pay etc. For 18 months I never once broke the limit. At weekends my wife drove and I was the passenger. It really wasn't that hard.
Another prick, this place is full of people who have never done anything wrong
I've done plenty wrong. But I haven't done the same thing wrong for a 4th time in 3 years when I knew after the 3rd time the consequences of getting caught doing it again would be painful.

HTH......prick.

gazza285

9,894 posts

211 months

Bullitt 1 said:
gazza285 said:
Plenty of warnings to modify his behaviour, yet here he is. I have sympathy for his father.
What a prick
I’ve never met his father, I have no idea if he is a prick or not.

Dunbar871

93 posts

2 months

I do notice the same posters across several threads who seem to have very different views to those you’d expect to see on an enthusiast’s motoring forum. Generally not helpful at all, adding zero value and very keen to criticise the op at the earliest opportunity rather than trying to help. There was a speeding one recently where the guy said he was suicidal yet the abuse from some continued, truly staggering.

Meanwhile op sounds like a clear case for an exceptional hardship argument, the focus should be on others who would suffer if you were banned, as said involving a professional legal adviser probably a good idea given the stakes.

s2sol

1,234 posts

174 months

This happened to me, albeit back in 1997, when I was a lot younger and far more foolish. I had a wife with pre eclampsia, I was working in Poole and living in Bristol. My exceptional hardship claim failed, and I spent 6 months regretting the choices I'd made that had led to the position I found myself in. It was an absolute pain in the arse and cost me a lot of money and time on trains and buses. Had I been paying my own insurance at the time, it would have cost me a lot for the three(maybe four?) years before the TT99 dropped off my licence.
At the time, I was raging against the system. With hindsight, I did it to myself. It was a hard but valuable lesson to learn.

Edited by s2sol on Monday 1st July 22:26

Blue62

9,086 posts

155 months

NRG1976 said:
6 points for doing 35 in a 30, why so many?
I think this adequately sums up the thread. Can you point to where I wrote that. Are you related to that Jag idiot?

JagLad

53 posts

3 months

Blue62 said:
Can you point to where I wrote that. Are you related to that Jag idiot?
Your post at 07:09 this morning.

I'm really out now.

NRG1976

1,221 posts

13 months

Blue62 said:
NRG1976 said:
6 points for doing 35 in a 30, why so many?
I think this adequately sums up the thread. Can you point to where I wrote that. Are you related to that Jag idiot?
You have said it twice you absolute complete moron. Are you on drugs or something?

BertBert

19,253 posts

214 months

Tuesday
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Blue62 said:
I think this adequately sums up the thread. Can you point to where I wrote that. Are you related to that Jag idiot?
Perhaps to save us all going around in circles, would you be able to say again what you think the outcome of the OP's 35 in a 30 will be please?

Blue62

9,086 posts

155 months

Tuesday
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NRG1976 said:
You have said it twice you absolute complete moron. Are you on drugs or something?
The OP is on nine penalty points and has just been caught speeding again, which means he won’t now receive the offer of a FPN, instead he’s been summoned to appear in a magistrates court.

A friend of mine was recently in the same situation, I’ve now bothered him for the details, his final offence was 61mph in a 50 limit, so he hired a lawyer and told the court he would likely lose his job and would suffer hardship. He was allowed to keep his licence but received a hefty fine and FIVE penalty points on his licence, taking his points total to fourteen.

If you or anyone else could be bothered to review what I originally posted you’d see that at no time have I stated that anyone would get six points for 35 in a 30, I actually used the term ‘something like six points’ to describe what I thought the OP would be in for, I think I could be a point or two out but who cares. The extra points, if awarded to the OP, will be a condition of keeping his licence I think.