Police run over calf - reasonable?
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Nibbles_bits said:
I didn't say it couldn't have been handled better.
What we don't know is -
What was considered and tried before taking this action?
Was the farmer contacted?
Was a farmer contacted?
Was a vet contacted?
Was the use of firearms considered?
But it's not dead, so there's no need for a vigil
You were implying because it is 'just' an animal, destined for being in a field, being bred, or eventually slaughtered, it doesn't matter too much. What we don't know is -
What was considered and tried before taking this action?
Was the farmer contacted?
Was a farmer contacted?
Was a vet contacted?
Was the use of firearms considered?
But it's not dead, so there's no need for a vigil
I don't think we need a vigil for a cow. I am though keen to understand the answers to some of those questions you pose before we decide everything is fine, despite it being only a cow.
Cat said:
Hopefully next time something like this happens the police will post on PH asking for assistance. Based on the posts on here there'll be plenty of people turn up who will sort the situation out in no time at all. 
Cat
The College of Policing are already rolling out advice -Cat
"When dealing with livestock, consider WWPD. What Would Pistonheads Do".
It's a reasonable action in my opinion. It's worse because there is clear footage of it. If we'd simply read about it, I doubt we'd even have a thread on it.
The only time I've been genuinely fearful of my safety was cycling across a field of cows, before I knew how dangerous they can be. They surrounded me and started charging and I really struggled to get away.
The only time I've been genuinely fearful of my safety was cycling across a field of cows, before I knew how dangerous they can be. They surrounded me and started charging and I really struggled to get away.
Nibbles_bits said:
Cat said:
Hopefully next time something like this happens the police will post on PH asking for assistance. Based on the posts on here there'll be plenty of people turn up who will sort the situation out in no time at all.
Cat
The College of Policing are already rolling out advice -Cat
"When dealing with livestock, consider WWPD. What Would Pistonheads Do".
Nibbles_bits said:
This story gets better -
Apparently this cow was reported as loose a few days ago, but because it was on Common Land, no one did anything.
Someone waited "several hours" before contacting someone to deal with it....via Facebook.
No vehicles were damaged and no one was at risk......apparently
Nope. Can’t be true. Apparently this cow was reported as loose a few days ago, but because it was on Common Land, no one did anything.
Someone waited "several hours" before contacting someone to deal with it....via Facebook.
No vehicles were damaged and no one was at risk......apparently
I’ve been told many times on this thread about how urban the area is. Can’t be any common land for miles around…
texaxile said:
PlywoodPascal said:
The guardian said ‘ A Surrey police spokesperson said they tried to safely capture the cow over a number of hours and explored a number of options before hitting it with a car. The force said the matter had been referred to its professional standards department.’
What I am desperate to know is what the options they ruled were that they thought were WORSE than t
tting it with a Volvo.
Hitting it with a Ford?.What I am desperate to know is what the options they ruled were that they thought were WORSE than t
tting it with a Volvo.TGCOTF-dewey said:
Nibbles_bits said:
Cat said:
Hopefully next time something like this happens the police will post on PH asking for assistance. Based on the posts on here there'll be plenty of people turn up who will sort the situation out in no time at all.
Cat
The College of Policing are already rolling out advice -Cat
"When dealing with livestock, consider WWPD. What Would Pistonheads Do".
If the calf was reported a few days ago, where were these farmers?
Where were these farmers during the "several hours" that the police were dealing with this cow?
Well I hope the cow is okay.
Lots of outrage on this thread but the Police are in a no-win situation, the cow was chasing after people in the BBC video. No idea if that is a curious friendly chase or a 'if I am going to end up as burgers I am not going alone' chase.
I think the risk of a 300kg cow injuring someone in that situation is quite high whether by direct contact or getting into a more serious collision.
Just a thought but not seeing any outrage for the pigs down in Wiltshire which received much much worse treatment than this particular cow received.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql6wn206o
This thread is just an excuse for a bit of faux outrage and Police bashing.
Lots of outrage on this thread but the Police are in a no-win situation, the cow was chasing after people in the BBC video. No idea if that is a curious friendly chase or a 'if I am going to end up as burgers I am not going alone' chase.
I think the risk of a 300kg cow injuring someone in that situation is quite high whether by direct contact or getting into a more serious collision.
Just a thought but not seeing any outrage for the pigs down in Wiltshire which received much much worse treatment than this particular cow received.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql6wn206o
This thread is just an excuse for a bit of faux outrage and Police bashing.
Tenacious said:
Nibbles_bits said:
Tenacious said:
"over a number of hours..."
Plenty of time to get a vet there then with a dart and sedate it.
And yet.......no vet???Plenty of time to get a vet there then with a dart and sedate it.
Inside knowledge. What else do ya know?
sparkythecat said:
We’ve gone soft.
In Pamplona Spain every year they run in the streets with fighting bulls. Big nasty things with horns and attitude.
This was a calf.
Exactly what I thought.In Pamplona Spain every year they run in the streets with fighting bulls. Big nasty things with horns and attitude.
This was a calf.
People on this thread making out like it was a tonne bull horned up in prime mating mode.
They have fully horned up stags in various parts of London running wild.
You don't see the police go ramming them.
Also in the BBC video the idiot in black won't leave it alone that's probably why the calf is following him.
FMOB said:
Well I hope the cow is okay.
Lots of outrage on this thread but the Police are in a no-win situation, the cow was chasing after people in the BBC video. No idea if that is a curious friendly chase or a 'if I am going to end up as burgers I am not going alone' chase.
I think the risk of a 300kg cow injuring someone in that situation is quite high whether by direct contact or getting into a more serious collision.
Just a thought but not seeing any outrage for the pigs down in Wiltshire which received much much worse treatment than this particular cow received.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql6wn206o
This thread is just an excuse for a bit of faux outrage and Police bashing.
As it's a calf, it's very unlikely to weigh 300kg. Lots of outrage on this thread but the Police are in a no-win situation, the cow was chasing after people in the BBC video. No idea if that is a curious friendly chase or a 'if I am going to end up as burgers I am not going alone' chase.
I think the risk of a 300kg cow injuring someone in that situation is quite high whether by direct contact or getting into a more serious collision.
Just a thought but not seeing any outrage for the pigs down in Wiltshire which received much much worse treatment than this particular cow received.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql6wn206o
This thread is just an excuse for a bit of faux outrage and Police bashing.
Depending on age 41 - 116kg. Still gonna hurt though
Thames Valley Police already proven it was a valid tactic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-57...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-57...
SmoothCriminal said:
sparkythecat said:
We’ve gone soft.
In Pamplona Spain every year they run in the streets with fighting bulls. Big nasty things with horns and attitude.
This was a calf.
Exactly what I thought.In Pamplona Spain every year they run in the streets with fighting bulls. Big nasty things with horns and attitude.
This was a calf.
People on this thread making out like it was a tonne bull horned up in prime mating mode.
They have fully horned up stags in various parts of London running wild.
You don't see the police go ramming them.
Also in the BBC video the idiot in black won't leave it alone that's probably why the calf is following him.
They were probably just thinking "that vet well called will be here soon", and then see the calf running at someone, who's running away........and the rest is history.
FMOB said:
Well I hope the cow is okay.
Lots of outrage on this thread but the Police are in a no-win situation, the cow was chasing after people in the BBC video. No idea if that is a curious friendly chase or a 'if I am going to end up as burgers I am not going alone' chase.
I think the risk of a 300kg cow injuring someone in that situation is quite high whether by direct contact or getting into a more serious collision.
Just a thought but not seeing any outrage for the pigs down in Wiltshire which received much much worse treatment than this particular cow received.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql6wn206o
This thread is just an excuse for a bit of faux outrage and Police bashing.
If it was some nutter with a knife they wouldn’t have rammed him with the car a couple of times….Lots of outrage on this thread but the Police are in a no-win situation, the cow was chasing after people in the BBC video. No idea if that is a curious friendly chase or a 'if I am going to end up as burgers I am not going alone' chase.
I think the risk of a 300kg cow injuring someone in that situation is quite high whether by direct contact or getting into a more serious collision.
Just a thought but not seeing any outrage for the pigs down in Wiltshire which received much much worse treatment than this particular cow received.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql6wn206o
This thread is just an excuse for a bit of faux outrage and Police bashing.
and31 said:
FMOB said:
Well I hope the cow is okay.
Lots of outrage on this thread but the Police are in a no-win situation, the cow was chasing after people in the BBC video. No idea if that is a curious friendly chase or a 'if I am going to end up as burgers I am not going alone' chase.
I think the risk of a 300kg cow injuring someone in that situation is quite high whether by direct contact or getting into a more serious collision.
Just a thought but not seeing any outrage for the pigs down in Wiltshire which received much much worse treatment than this particular cow received.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql6wn206o
This thread is just an excuse for a bit of faux outrage and Police bashing.
If it was some nutter with a knife they wouldn’t have rammed him with the car a couple of times….Lots of outrage on this thread but the Police are in a no-win situation, the cow was chasing after people in the BBC video. No idea if that is a curious friendly chase or a 'if I am going to end up as burgers I am not going alone' chase.
I think the risk of a 300kg cow injuring someone in that situation is quite high whether by direct contact or getting into a more serious collision.
Just a thought but not seeing any outrage for the pigs down in Wiltshire which received much much worse treatment than this particular cow received.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql6wn206o
This thread is just an excuse for a bit of faux outrage and Police bashing.
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