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r3g said:
If they only have a shelf life of 20 years or so per the US example then the overall cost to replicate it in the UK is going to be far more than what it would cost to just build a proper house in the first place, once you add in costs to demolish and build a fresh one when it expires.
Anyway, this is the business thread, not the 'housing shortage/politics' thread, of which there are several current threads in their own sub-forums without turning this one into another.
Indeed. Does anyone know house builders, surveyors, groundworks contractors, and so on are getting on at the moment?Anyway, this is the business thread, not the 'housing shortage/politics' thread, of which there are several current threads in their own sub-forums without turning this one into another.
skwdenyer said:
r3g said:
If they only have a shelf life of 20 years or so per the US example then the overall cost to replicate it in the UK is going to be far more than what it would cost to just build a proper house in the first place, once you add in costs to demolish and build a fresh one when it expires.
Anyway, this is the business thread, not the 'housing shortage/politics' thread, of which there are several current threads in their own sub-forums without turning this one into another.
Indeed. Does anyone know house builders, surveyors, groundworks contractors, and so on are getting on at the moment?Anyway, this is the business thread, not the 'housing shortage/politics' thread, of which there are several current threads in their own sub-forums without turning this one into another.
2023 saw the most firms go to the wall in 30 years. 2024 may yet beat that.
The news the last few weeks (years) has been bereft of a glimmer of hope but how can any government proclaim to be growing the economy when we have the following:
Woodsmith site possibly mothballed
TATA steel closing a huge amount of the Port Talbot works
And Vauxhall looking to close / mothball major manufacturing plants.
Woodsmith site possibly mothballed
TATA steel closing a huge amount of the Port Talbot works
And Vauxhall looking to close / mothball major manufacturing plants.
Edited by Essarell on Wednesday 26th June 10:30
Edited by Essarell on Wednesday 26th June 10:30
Ecommerce retail (gardening)
Still incredibly tough out there.
Much of our demand drop is due to the terrible UK weather this spring.
But even the recent sunny spell didn't bring out the same high sales as usual.
Going to be a very 'interesting' few months I reckon.
Recent retail CBI survey backs up this feeling I think?
CBI CBI Distributive Trades Survey
26 JUNE 2024
Retail sales volumes fell faster than anticipated in the year to June.
reversing a return to modest growth last month
Retailers expect sales volumes to continue falling next month, albeit at a slower pace.
Key findings included:
Retail sales volumes fell in the year to June, following a modest recovery in May (weighted balance of -24% from +8%). Retailers expect sales to fall at a slower rate next month (-9%).
Sales were reported to be well below “average” for the time of year (-39% from +2% in May). Sales volumes are expected to remain below seasonal norms in July, albeit to a lesser extent (-29%).
Orders placed upon suppliers fell moderately in the year to June at a broadly similar pace to last month (-14% from -11% in May). Retailers expect the cutback in orders to continue next month (-16%).
Stock positions were reported as broadly “adequate” in relation to expected sales (+3% from +16% in May). Stock positions are expected to remain unchanged next month (0).
Internet sales declined heavily, and at a faster pace than expected in the year to June (-45% from -6% in May). Online sales are expected to fall again next month, but only slightly (-5%).
Still incredibly tough out there.
Much of our demand drop is due to the terrible UK weather this spring.
But even the recent sunny spell didn't bring out the same high sales as usual.
Going to be a very 'interesting' few months I reckon.
Recent retail CBI survey backs up this feeling I think?
CBI CBI Distributive Trades Survey
26 JUNE 2024
Retail sales volumes fell faster than anticipated in the year to June.
reversing a return to modest growth last month
Retailers expect sales volumes to continue falling next month, albeit at a slower pace.
Key findings included:
Retail sales volumes fell in the year to June, following a modest recovery in May (weighted balance of -24% from +8%). Retailers expect sales to fall at a slower rate next month (-9%).
Sales were reported to be well below “average” for the time of year (-39% from +2% in May). Sales volumes are expected to remain below seasonal norms in July, albeit to a lesser extent (-29%).
Orders placed upon suppliers fell moderately in the year to June at a broadly similar pace to last month (-14% from -11% in May). Retailers expect the cutback in orders to continue next month (-16%).
Stock positions were reported as broadly “adequate” in relation to expected sales (+3% from +16% in May). Stock positions are expected to remain unchanged next month (0).
Internet sales declined heavily, and at a faster pace than expected in the year to June (-45% from -6% in May). Online sales are expected to fall again next month, but only slightly (-5%).
Well our sales book for June closed £40k down on June 2023, closer to £50k in reality when you factor in £10k's worth of Amazon sales that we didn't have to do in 2023 to stay busy.
Sales in our bricks and mortar shop have taken a massive tumble through May & June compared with last year. I think that's in part due to the above ground pool market this year being non-existent, we'd normally have small floating chlorine dispensers flying out the door (lots of 20 quids), but I haven't had to even re-order them yet from my initial stock. The weather has been crap and people haven't got their pools out.
Sales in our bricks and mortar shop have taken a massive tumble through May & June compared with last year. I think that's in part due to the above ground pool market this year being non-existent, we'd normally have small floating chlorine dispensers flying out the door (lots of 20 quids), but I haven't had to even re-order them yet from my initial stock. The weather has been crap and people haven't got their pools out.
GardeningEcomm said:
Sorry to hear that Doctor.
I really have never seen demand as weak as this.
Fortunately we have kept a close eye on costs so should be able to ride out this soft period.
Hope we both have a better July
Gardening Ecomm what’s your website? Just interested in what you sell. I really have never seen demand as weak as this.
Fortunately we have kept a close eye on costs so should be able to ride out this soft period.
Hope we both have a better July
Digga said:
urquattroGus said:
Stihl GB are now going to sell through Screwfix.
This is on op of the fact that their huge new offices have been paid for by screwing all existing dealers, especially the online ones within an inch of life.
I smell the influence (effluence) of private equity.This is on op of the fact that their huge new offices have been paid for by screwing all existing dealers, especially the online ones within an inch of life.
Presumably they’re going to push the more “consumer” equipment through Screwfix?
skwdenyer said:
Digga said:
urquattroGus said:
Stihl GB are now going to sell through Screwfix.
This is on op of the fact that their huge new offices have been paid for by screwing all existing dealers, especially the online ones within an inch of life.
I smell the influence (effluence) of private equity.This is on op of the fact that their huge new offices have been paid for by screwing all existing dealers, especially the online ones within an inch of life.
Presumably they’re going to push the more “consumer” equipment through Screwfix?
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