RE: 2021 ULEZ expansion | PH Explains

[braddo]

ZX10R NIN said:

They're great for navigating the potholes & speed humps, a Panda would be horrible in comparison.

I think this is some sort of London slang for wealth and image, in which case a panda is horrible in comparison.

[anyoldcardave]

samoht said:

JDM imports are eligible when newer than the enforcement date of the relevant standard. So for petrols, if first registered (in Japan) after 1 Jan 2006, diesels 1 Sep 2015. So you could e.g. drive this EVO IX https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12188251 within the zone without paying.

The only difference is that cars older than these dates are automatically ineligible, whereas their EU market counterparts may be ok if their original homologation figures come under the 80 mg/km limit for NOx.

You have quoted the dates which they produced, which for petrol cars is absolute bullst, most 2001 cars onwards are ULEZ exempt, not had one yet that is not, even those with 500 quid road fund license, because they are high polluters, my current runaround is one of those, on a 51 plate, but many Y reg are also compliant.

With regards to HGV LEZ, that too is skewed, my Euro 5 Scania is compliant, a 2013 vehicle registered in Jan 2014 because it took ages for the body build, therefore compliant due to registration date. Hundreds others are in the same position. The fact it is Euro 5 is completely lost to these muppets.

You can argue your case as some have said and get your car cleared, disabled registered vehicles have exemption until October 2025. Showmans vehicles are exempt.

There is a whole other story to be told on this subject, there are thousands of non compliant vehicles not paying the charge, keep an eye on the press lol, it will get there eventually. Have a look at other vehicles around you, do you really think they are all paying a daily charge ?

[anyoldcardave]

CoolHands said:

I think I find when I look out my front window they’re not. They’re still 2008 donkeys that sound like an aircraft carrier taking off.

I think we’ve had this argument before but you seem to have some kind of vested interest in pretending their all super modern and clean even though they aren’t.

Look at the ones with L plates, none are compliant, loads of buses are non compliant, so are loads of Council trucks and vans, BT and Royal mail the same, whether they are paying or not I have no idea but I doubt it.

Camera policing is not really working lol, I took a C3 in part ex today, the girl said it was out of test in June so wanted out of it, fair enough and June was true, it expired in June 2021. My own BMW was out of test and tax for 5 months before I realized, used every day, not declared Sorn and no fines came.

Failures all around lol.

[CDP]

anyoldcardave said:

Look at the ones with L plates, none are compliant, loads of buses are non compliant, so are loads of Council trucks and vans, BT and Royal mail the same, whether they are paying or not I have no idea but I doubt it.

Camera policing is not really working lol, I took a C3 in part ex today, the girl said it was out of test in June so wanted out of it, fair enough and June was true, it expired in June 2021. My own BMW was out of test and tax for 5 months before I realized, used every day, not declared Sorn and no fines came.

Failures all around lol.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/7284...

The first one I found online but I've heard of a similar case with a tractor from one of the Scottish islands.

A colleague sold his car with a failed engine, expecting it to be broken for spares. Shortly after he was receiving 4 NIPs for speeding a day from the roadworks that were (at the time) on the M11. Fortunately the DVLA immediately admitted he had correctly filed the sale with them and he wasn't getting prosecuted. However the tickets kept coming and he had to return the details for each one. I expect his plates were on a stolen car, as the tickets were always around the same time (2 south, 2 north) I'd hope the police would have been on the lookout for this car. Hope.

[robinessex]

ULEZ to be expanded London-wide, Sadiq Khan announces

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63754...

London's Ultra Low Emissions Zone (ULEZ) is to be expanded to cover all of London, the mayor has announced.

From 29 August, drivers of the most polluting cars will have to pay £12.50 each day to enter to the Greater London Authority boundary......continues

Complete bks. My wife has to commute into that area for her shop work. So that's circa £3000/yr out of her pathetic retail shop salary. Looks as if she's having to go looking for a new position nearer home. I feel sorry for all those who are stuck with it. So that means my visits to B&Q, Asda, Ikea, Lakeside, Bluewater, Romford market, Upminster underground station, and other miscellaneous places are of the agenda now. Oops, forgot about the hospital visit(s) and relatives.

[ZX10R NIN]

The funny thing about this is that as explained on the other ULEZ thread that over 2/3rd's of Londoners registered their objections to the ULEZ being extended.

Then TFL say after consultation & listening to the views of Londoners were extending the ULEZ, you couldn't make it up

[dxg]

Surprised this hasn't cropped up on here - or maybe I missed it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7203p9jgy9o

£10 per year for an EV within London's ULEX will become the standard £15 per day from 25 December 2025 - a nice Christmas present.

So, there will be no financial advantage to owning an EV in London.

[V6Nelo]

dxg said:

Surprised this hasn't cropped up on here - or maybe I missed it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7203p9jgy9o

£10 per year for an EV within London's ULEX will become the standard £15 per day from 25 December 2025 - a nice Christmas present.

So, there will be no financial advantage to owning an EV in London.

Seemed a bit strange then saw the article mentioned the congestion zone not ULEZ so just the centre of London which was supposed to be all about congestion anyway.

[Clivey]

dxg said:

Surprised this hasn't cropped up on here - or maybe I missed it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7203p9jgy9o

£10 per year for an EV within London's ULEX will become the standard £15 per day from 25 December 2025 - a nice Christmas present.

So, there will be no financial advantage to owning an EV in London.

Well, well, well...I bet nobody saw that coming!

[valiant]

dxg said:

Surprised this hasn't cropped up on here - or maybe I missed it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7203p9jgy9o

£10 per year for an EV within London's ULEX will become the standard £15 per day from 25 December 2025 - a nice Christmas present.

So, there will be no financial advantage to owning an EV in London.

They still won’t pay the ULEZ charge.

They will pay the Congestion Charge.

EVs contribute towards congestion as well. Shouldn’t have been exempt in the first place.

[Mr Tidy]

valiant said:

They still won’t pay the ULEZ charge.

They will pay the Congestion Charge.

EVs contribute towards congestion as well. Shouldn’t have been exempt in the first place.

That makes perfect sense really, which is unusual in Khanistan!