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Rob.

249 posts

38 months

Saturday 15th June
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wolfracesonic said:
If you mean the gaps round the edges, the only time I did drawers like this with a separate front, I used double sided tape to stick the front to the drawer carcass, slid it around for an equidistant fit, then screwed in from the back for a permanent fix. If the fixed drawer front is not lying flush with the surrounding carcass use some thin shims to correct it.
I had an inkling I should have used a double front, so yours and loughran's posts confirms it. Thanks.

crmcatee

5,716 posts

230 months

Wednesday 19th June
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Similar to what I made for my Dad, a small urn to retain some ashes for a neighbour who has just lost her husband. They'll spread the rest in the nature reserve but she wants to keep some close at hand, who am I to refuse.

Oak recovered from a 1930/40's fireplace so the same era they were born in. Couple of coats of danish oil.


gtidriver

3,372 posts

190 months

Wednesday 19th June
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crmcatee said:
Similar to what I made for my Dad, a small urn to retain some ashes for a neighbour who has just lost her husband. They'll spread the rest in the nature reserve but she wants to keep some close at hand, who am I to refuse.

Oak recovered from a 1930/40's fireplace so the same era they were born in. Couple of coats of danish oil.

Very nice, what a nice person you are to do that too..

bakerstreet

4,796 posts

168 months

Tuesday
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crmcatee said:
Similar to what I made for my Dad, a small urn to retain some ashes for a neighbour who has just lost her husband. They'll spread the rest in the nature reserve but she wants to keep some close at hand, who am I to refuse.

Oak recovered from a 1930/40's fireplace so the same era they were born in. Couple of coats of danish oil.

When I depart this earth, I would like my ashes in something like that. Certainly better than anything shop bought.



bakerstreet

4,796 posts

168 months

Tuesday
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I am nearing the end of what I call the TVU.

This has tested me. Ended up completely repainting it as I didn't like the colour. This is actually Wickes matt furniture paint and i0ts much better than the Johnstones Dusty Morning furniture paint which is what I started with.

Got to add a couple of colour coats to one side of the cupboard door and then some touching up on the drawer box. Hoping tom do the bog unveil to family on Saturday. I usually make Mrs B play some John Williams music and use an old sheet for the ceremony. This causes much eye rolling by everyone.



Top panel is an old Oakblock dining table cut to fit and then finished using Danish oil. There is a shelf in the middle that is made of the same stuff. That will be one of the last things I will fit.


Otispunkmeyer

12,719 posts

158 months

Tuesday
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Thought I'd ask here instead of making a new thread.

I've got some planed all-round oak boards and 3 of them are pretty much the same but the 4th is majority a much whiter looking oak than the rest.

I was planning on staining the oak anyway because I wanted the colour a little darker/richer but wondered if its worth trying to "colour match" the whiter board so its closer to the others.

How would I go about doing that and does anyone have any wood stains or varnishes they could recommend?

(The wood is being used indoors for a shelving/wall feature, I was planning to finish it with a matte-like coating so its protected and smooth to the touch but not shiny/glossy).

Cheers

loughran

2,796 posts

139 months

Tuesday
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bakerstreet said:
I am nearing the end of what I call the TVU.

This has tested me. Ended up completely repainting it as I didn't like the colour. This is actually Wickes matt furniture paint and i0ts much better than the Johnstones Dusty Morning furniture paint which is what I started with.

Got to add a couple of colour coats to one side of the cupboard door and then some touching up on the drawer box. Hoping tom do the bog unveil to family on Saturday. I usually make Mrs B play some John Williams music and use an old sheet for the ceremony. This causes much eye rolling by everyone.



Top panel is an old Oakblock dining table cut to fit and then finished using Danish oil. There is a shelf in the middle that is made of the same stuff. That will be one of the last things I will fit.

Looks excellent, good luck with the unveiling although I'm sure everybody will love it.

I'll be adopting the sheet and John Williams grand reveal on my very next kitchen. biggrin

wolfracesonic

7,191 posts

130 months

Tuesday
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What particular John Williams music has everyone in mind? Or how about a prolonged drumroll and a ‘ ta dah’ at the end? Glamorous assistant would help things greatly as wellthumbup

loughran

2,796 posts

139 months

Tuesday
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biggrin So much choice.

Star Wars theme is good and you won't go far wrong with Raiders of the Lost Arc. The theme from Jaws would definitely work but for maximum eye rolling it's got to be the theme from Superman... It's like John had the furniture reveal in mind when he composed it.


Harmonica

163 posts

59 months

Tuesday
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My favourite has to be John Williams’ - The Patriot: Main Theme (which is actually played while Mel Gibson is trying to perfect the making of a rocking chair).


loughran

2,796 posts

139 months

Wednesday
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Otispunkmeyer said:
Thought I'd ask here instead of making a new thread.

I've got some planed all-round oak boards and 3 of them are pretty much the same but the 4th is majority a much whiter looking oak than the rest.

I was planning on staining the oak anyway because I wanted the colour a little darker/richer but wondered if its worth trying to "colour match" the whiter board so its closer to the others.

How would I go about doing that and does anyone have any wood stains or varnishes they could recommend?

(The wood is being used indoors for a shelving/wall feature, I was planning to finish it with a matte-like coating so its protected and smooth to the touch but not shiny/glossy).

Cheers
This is tricky to answer. You can certainly attempt to colour match the lighter board but should accept that it's unlikely to ever match the colour of the other 3 boards perfectly. Perhaps you can use the lighter board in a way that the contrast isn't so obvious... or make a feature of the difference in colour between the boards.

There are a few different types of wood stain. Spirit stains are meths based, water based stains are waterbased, oil based stains which are turps/white spirit based and stains that are a finish and a colour combined into one tinting product like Osmo Polyx Oil Tints.

Personally, I've always preferred oil based stains, especially those made by Colron but due to legislation Colron don't make them anymore.... so that's not an option.

I have little experience with the recent selection of acrylic waterbased stains, perhaps somebody else here has a preferred product.

Bye the bye, it's not always clear what type of stain a stain is from the packaging. The cleaning up/brush washing instructions on the back will give you a clearer idea.

Custerdome

134 posts

26 months

Wednesday
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I mentioned my experiences with Rubio Monocoat a few pages back, it's a matt finish and available in a variety of tints/colours. I've only used the Pure (clear), so can't really say how accurate the tints are. It's going to be guesswork though.

Also Sprach Zarathustra when the job's gone well, and maybe this one when it hasn't gone exactly to plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vepI_L_FekA

bakerstreet

4,796 posts

168 months

Yesterday (10:05)
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loughran said:
Looks excellent, good luck with the unveiling although I'm sure everybody will love it.

I'll be adopting the sheet and John Williams grand reveal on my very next kitchen. biggrin
You'll need a very big sheet. I've seen your kitchens. Your work looks stunning. Its only doing these projects that I realize how much I respect professional cabinet makers.

My favourites are the Star Wars opening theme and Jurassic Park, but the later doesn't quite have the level of drama required.

I asked Mrs B if she would perform the act of the girl in Bullseye posing with said furniture. Lets just say this was met with resistance!

Fixed cabinet door and hinges to the frame this morning. That needs some work. Will need to re-drill the holes and try and align the door to frame.

Its coming together though.



I'm quite proud of the recess between the cross pieces and the upright on the frame. Turned out as I wanted. Same with the genuine shaker doors. Made using four strips of 18mm MDF with grooves cut down the middle and 9mm MDF slotted in the gap. I explain this to my friends and you can literally watch their eyes glaze over as I describe it. Looking back 12 months, I never thought I would be able to make these doors, so quite pleased with my efforts there.

Edited by bakerstreet on Thursday 4th July 10:14

Otispunkmeyer

12,719 posts

158 months

Yesterday (11:51)
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loughran said:
Otispunkmeyer said:
Thought I'd ask here instead of making a new thread.

I've got some planed all-round oak boards and 3 of them are pretty much the same but the 4th is majority a much whiter looking oak than the rest.

I was planning on staining the oak anyway because I wanted the colour a little darker/richer but wondered if its worth trying to "colour match" the whiter board so its closer to the others.

How would I go about doing that and does anyone have any wood stains or varnishes they could recommend?

(The wood is being used indoors for a shelving/wall feature, I was planning to finish it with a matte-like coating so its protected and smooth to the touch but not shiny/glossy).

Cheers
This is tricky to answer. You can certainly attempt to colour match the lighter board but should accept that it's unlikely to ever match the colour of the other 3 boards perfectly. Perhaps you can use the lighter board in a way that the contrast isn't so obvious... or make a feature of the difference in colour between the boards.

There are a few different types of wood stain. Spirit stains are meths based, water based stains are waterbased, oil based stains which are turps/white spirit based and stains that are a finish and a colour combined into one tinting product like Osmo Polyx Oil Tints.

Personally, I've always preferred oil based stains, especially those made by Colron but due to legislation Colron don't make them anymore.... so that's not an option.

I have little experience with the recent selection of acrylic waterbased stains, perhaps somebody else here has a preferred product.

Bye the bye, it's not always clear what type of stain a stain is from the packaging. The cleaning up/brush washing instructions on the back will give you a clearer idea.
Thanks. I had seen the Osmo ones and I think thats what I might go with as, as you say, its a stain and a finish. I think you're right about the colour matching, I'll be chasing my tail most likely so I will just live with it and place that board in the least obvious position.

bakerstreet

4,796 posts

168 months

Yesterday (16:09)
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Installed the drawer today and the alignment is far from perfect, but from 6ft, we are looking good. Cupboard door needs new holes drilling for the hinges so plugged the originals with dowels. Will sand and repaint and try again tomorrow.

Getting my drawer lined over the weekend. I tried to do that once and failed miserably.











Holes at the top on the back panel are to feed cables through. There are holes in the base as well. I don't like holes in the back of media units, so wanted a more elegant solution for this.

I still need to grind off some screw heads in places, but will do that tonight.

EmBe

7,597 posts

272 months

Yesterday (16:15)
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loughran said:
Personally, I've always preferred oil based stains, especially those made by Colron but due to legislation Colron don't make them anymore.... so that's not an option.
I'd noticed the Colron American Walnut stain is not as dark as it used to be after one application, perhaps that's because it's not oil based anymore.

Speaking of which, your recommendation for the Rustin's Plastic finish worked a treat, the worktop went into the van yesterday, the finish is super tough (4 coats in the end, rubbed back with 120 for the first couple, then 240 subsequently) and complements the brass sink:



Not the best picture but the van is far from being finished so it's just a quick snap. It's cabinets next and so I broke out the veneered MDF, the 12mm wasn't particularly inspiring, but I was very pleased when I looked at the 6mm.....



It seemed almost a shame to cut it.

s-x-i

170 posts

52 months

No sure if this is the right place to post this.

What would be the best way to fill this after getting new internal doors fitted?

Just use filler, or would it be best to try and pack it first?


AJLintern

4,216 posts

266 months

I'd router it out and set in a new strip of wood, then re-cut to suit the new plate.

loughran

2,796 posts

139 months

I'd use two pack filler and a small spade. biggrin

Danns

316 posts

62 months

I’d tell people I did this
AJLintern said:
I'd router it out and set in a new strip of wood, then re-cut to suit the new plate.
But in reality I’d almost definitely do this

loughran said:
I'd use two pack filler and a small spade. biggrin
Or a combination of the two when the new strip didn’t quite fit well enough.

Everyone’s got skeletons in the closet and all that!