New UVPC sash windows fitted. Sill too narrow?!

[TT86]

Simpo Two said:

It's a pity the mouldings underneath have disappeared, they gave it character.

I'm hoping they'll fit a decorative moulding underneath all being well.

May I ask your thoughts re a side window they fitted today? (again whilst I was at work)

Looks super from the inside but gaping gaps on both sides outside which will no doubt be foamed tomorrow and huge plastic trims fitted. Surely a complete survey fail? I feel having voids this size either side of the window completely negates the point of having double glazing in the first place.

[TT86]

Other side

[TT86]

Oh and this is a reputable local family firm who I have used before so not sure what has gone wrong.

[interstellar]

That looks a pretty st job to me but I am not an expert.

I would not be happy with that though.

[mikebradford]

Those side windows look badly sized.
However are they bathroom windows? And sized to not effect tiles etc internally?

[James6112]

Not being a smartarse, but the surveyor needs new measure..
Surprised they tried to get away with it, knowing you’re onto them ;(
Mine had a similar gap above, ‘foamed’ with trim.
Water & dust came in on a windy day, I redid it myself. My amateur job was better than theirs as they didn’t care.
I’d reject that tbh.
The side screws are doing naff all in mid air!

Edited by James6112 on Thursday 27th June 18:47

[119]

The old windows would have had wider frames so I suspect the window with big gaps looks ok from the inside.

It should have had knock ons but I suspect they didn’t have order any.

[J6542]

Depending what the insides are like. That window might be the right size. They could have made it out of large section though which would have allowed the frame to be bigger , but the opener size would have been the same size.
Putting add ons on the side of the window would have taking the space up, but they serve no purpose, since you have to cover them anyway.

[Aluminati]

TT86 said:

Oh and this is a reputable local family firm who I have used before so not sure what has gone wrong.

In a nutshell, the firm is st.

[TT86]

Thanks folks

I can get to the right side on a ladder and the gap is approx 20mm but goes in to a big hole at the top. I can't access the left side but the gap looks bigger.

Not sure how this will be fixed so it's thermally efficient - foam and then render?

I'm so angry honestly

[TT86]

I think the inside looked ok but the baby is asleep so I can't check now. It's a wooden surround like the pic of the other window inside I posted.

Two bathroom windows fitted too which are finished and looks fine- not sure what the gaps underneath will be on them mind you

[J6542]

The surveyor should have explained all that to you when they were measured, the windows might be the right size, but they would have looked better if they had been kept in 40mm or so. You would have needed new finishings on the inside tho

[hidetheelephants]

Chumley.mouse said:

If i hadn’t been there he would have filled it with sealant.

That's a belter, must be at least 20mm there. Did the fitters forget their guide dog?

[TT86]

So having emailed the company owner the fitters turned up in the morning, clearly none the wiser. First time I'd met them. Explained my concerns re the large gaps but he said it was normal as the external window frames were so bulky. He said in a modern house the internal and external line up, ours is 1905. He showed me on the bedroom window they were doing and to be fair there was a large difference between outer and inner and you couldnt have the outer fully covered as the glass would be right up to the architrave inside.

Not impressed the company owner never replied, I'm sure the fitters spoke to him but I still expected some contact.

This is how the previously shown window now looks

[TT86]

Tomorrow the UVPC back door is going on, the left it in the garden Fri when they went home.

It rained heavily today so I nipped out to bring the bottom panel in.

It doesn't look great! I can't imagine the beading will hide this adequately, no doubt they will intend on fitting it though. Reckon I should leave them a note asking them to replace? I will be at work again when they come.

Roll on the job being finished ??[url]|

https://forums-images.pistonheads.com/647438/20240...

[Digger]

TT86 said:

Tomorrow the UVPC back door is going on, the left it in the garden Fri when they went home.

It rained heavily today so I nipped out to bring the bottom panel in.

It doesn't look great! I can't imagine the beading will hide this adequately, no doubt they will intend on fitting it though. Reckon I should leave them a note asking them to replace? I will be at work again when they come.

Roll on the job being finished ??[url]|

https://forums-images.pistonheads.com/647438/20240...

See bold . . . Yet again herein lies the problem

[TT86]

Digger said:

See bold . . . Yet again herein lies the problem

Sadly I don't have a choice, I'll have to flag it to them somehow before.

[Digger]

TT86 said:

Digger said:

See bold . . . Yet again herein lies the problem

Sadly I don't have a choice, I'll have to flag it to them somehow before.

These are expensive decisions that you are mis-managing . . .

[TT86]

Digger said:

These are expensive decisions that you are mis-managing . . .

I don't really think it's fair to call it mismanaging, I don't the luxury of being able to take short notice annual leave to supervise the window fitters- nor should I have to really!

I'll just have to leave them a note saying I want this panel swapping out.

[Digger]

Okay that is fair. Apologies

Surveyor presumably measured accurately or close to . . .

Hopefully resolved soon